Hi Mike,   
      
   >-> Well, yesterday we became the happy owners of two yellow lab puppies, Sophi   
   > -> and Hooch, 8 week old littermates.. and what a handful they are !!!! :)   
      
   > Hi Janis!   
      
   > I am jealous already!   
      
   Aw :)  They are sooo cool though hahaha and tiny :) with sharp teeth and claws   
   Lol   
      
   > -> If anybody has been through something like this, yer comments are welcome   
   > Lol   
      
   > I think they are all different. In what I have read and in my   
   > experience, it is good to expose the Pups to Toby in a neutral area,   
   > such as outdoors, The pups will get used to him, but it is the pups that   
      
   Well, the kitchen idea worked well... after I got them tired out in there,   
   when I let them out they were calmer and the three of them did just fine :)  I   
   kept them out all day except after they ate, hoping they'd poop on their   
   papers in that kitchen and they um... mostly did Lol  Then last night I put   
   them back in there so I didn't have to worry about them while we were trying   
   to sleep .   
      
   This morning, they are completely nutso and Toby is playing with them   
   constantly.. giving them a warning growl, etc when necessary (don't blame   
   him,those puppy teeth HURT!! haha)  The pups didn't like being 'holed up' in   
   the other kitchen, but I'm sure the kittens sure did I bet :)  I saw Leo BOLT   
   out of the bedroom yesterday probably because he ran into them unexpectedly    
      
      
   > could now make the alpha dog think he is losing territory, which may   
   > very well be when they grow up, but I think for the pups, it is just a   
      
   Yeah Hooch (or soon to be named Indy by my grandson, I hear ) is going to   
   be a big boy.. he's one of those pups with gigantic feet ... guess we'll see..   
   Sophie isn't mousy either though ..   
      
   > matter of getting used to everything. For Toby, it is that, plus   
   > security. But if there is no aggression already, I don't think You have   
   > a thing to worry about. The biggest problem would be Toby feeling   
   > threatened. But that does not seem to be the case. With the Kittens, You   
   > know more about that than I do for sure . Other than just watching   
   > how the big one plays, as I assume the little ones at 8 weeks are still   
   > small.. I would just enjoy the the living heck out of em and take   
   > pictures and or videos if You can.. They are only small once!   
      
   They are tiny :)  I have some pictures I'll post today and I'll try to get   
   some action - my camera does video as well as pics..   
      
   > Have a good One!   
   > Mike   
      
      
   > PS.. I am going to be asking You in a while, do the litter mates play   
   > rougher together, than usual, meaning rougher than say two different   
   > dogs, maybe even different ages from different litters. I got all kinds   
   > of advice, non specific, about is it a good idea to get littermates or   
   > not. I finally sided with the it's ok. However as I think I posted to   
      
   Know what you mean.. with Priscilla and Toby, we went through a rough time   
   when Toby was a er.. teenager haha.. and these two new pups are at each other   
   all the time..  toby gets in there too (he can't resist a tumble) and you see   
   the three of them doing the dance play thing with their posture.. it's SO   
   funny to see :)  then now and again one of the pups come over to me, and their   
   head is soaking wet.. probably from Toby's mouth .. But their great   
   together really   
   :)   
      
   > you before, these two, love each other dearly, but seem to be, shall we   
   > say, so familiar with each other, they can get to playing and at times   
   > just get soooo rough. It could be that it's just their personalities.   
   > But It did make me wish, though I would not trade them for the world.   
   > That maybe I would have raised one to a year and then got another,   
   > rather than raising the two. But again, if it is a personality thing,   
   > that would not have mattered. If it is because they have been play   
   > fighting since the crib.. Then I would have tried to alleviate the   
   > situation. But like I said, they make it sound like championship dog   
   > fights one minute and are curled up sleeping together 2 minutes later.   
   > So let me know how Yours go...   
      
   Sure will   And I bet I'll be asking you plenty of questions    
      
   Take care,   
   Janis   
      
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