MSGID: 1:153/757.21@fidonet 23bfd02e   
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   Hello Rob!   
      
   ** On Sunday 24.08.25 - 09:11, you wrote to me:   
      
    AA>> Interesting.. "The guidance says border agents cannot use the   
    >> device to access information stored remotely, such as on "the   
    >> cloud," ...   
      
    AA>> "However, agents can search people's email, text and WhatsApp   
    >> messages, and any other content that's accessible on a device."   
      
    RM> I wonder if that may be because messages and such are considered   
    RM> somewhat Public where a Cloud Storage site can be totally private?   
      
   Seems to me it should/could be the other way around. Perhaps     
   they consider it's overreach to insist they have the user's     
   phone sucking data if you don't want it to?  However, I suppose     
   searching the phone's own local contents is akin to searching a     
   bag of luggage that is *with* the person.   
      
   I think asking to access the Cloud Storage would be akin to     
   asking to access another device, but in this case it's a     
   virtual one and not one in the control of the user, and     
   therefore exempt?   
      
   But what is interesting though.. would be if you claim to     
   forget the password, what's the worst that can happen?  Some     
   apps offer "Forgot password?" options.. but that requires a     
   connection to the web which their rules say they cannot force     
   you to do.   
      
      
    AA>> "Travellers are "obligated" to present their electronic devices   
    >> ...including providing necessary passwords."   
      
    RM> I can add this to all the reasons why I don't travel outside   
    RM> Canada anymore, although I only went to the USA quite often   
    RM> in earlier years and never made it to any other countries.   
    RM> I can't think of many I'd like to visit, although that may be   
    RM> more due to having to cope with the crowds of people you fight   
    RM> getting there than not wanting to visit another country..   
      
   Me too.  Not interested to travel to the USA anymore.  I've     
   been to Florida a few times as part of my pastlife work, and     
   once to Pennsylvania, and once to Boston.   
      
   Wouldn't mind travelling to my parent's home country in Europe,     
   but I'm not interested to go through the hassle of getting a     
   passport.   
      
   We have quite a vast country to explore. No passport required.   
      
      
    AA>> Wrt to Telegram, Session, et al.. I suppose the user could   
    >> uninstall the apps prior to inspection of a device, and then   
    >> reinstall them after clearance from border security.   
      
    RM> From their Cloud account..   B)   
      
   Yes.. Tg and Session resync from the cloud when reinstalled and     
   verified on a device, so.. their evironments can be     
   reconstituted when you are nolonger at the border.   
      
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