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   Message 726 of 1,128   
   Rob Mccart to ED VANCE   
   if he gets his way..   
   20 May 25 01:15:00   
   
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   AO>>   >terms, then that pretty much seals the deal.  He can't get a   
     >>   >3rd term if someone hands it over to him, for example.   
      
   RM>> Yes, but he's been hard at work trying to change the Constitution so   
     >> that he can have at least a Third term, and maybe more.   
      
   EV>It was a shock to Trump the first presential term that he couldn't have   
     >his way with whatever he wanted   
     >Before then he bought and sold what he wished to do.   
      
   Yes, he always had that attitude that money is power, and maybe running   
   for president he figured was the only way to get more power, only to   
   find there were limits. He got around a lot of those when he declared   
   a National State of Emergency (financial) which bypasses a lot of the   
   annoying things like having to have the House and Senate vote on things.   
      
   The advantage of a Financial State of Emergency is you can't say that   
   it is suddenly over and end it. What he is saying he is doing - I'm not   
   sure if he believes it or it's just the story he is spinning - would   
   take decades to accomplish, and even his original declaration of   
   Emergency was declared a fake emergency by at least 15 states.   
      
   EV>It bothers me that he said we would 't have to vote anymore if he   
     >got elected the second term.   
      
   Yes, I honestly think he looks at things that Putin did when he   
   was elected President of Russia and thought he could do the same   
   thing, throwing away the Constitution so he could do whatever he   
   felt like doing.   
      
   It will be interesting to see what follows after his term.   
   Even if it's Republicans again, will they want to carry on with   
   his ideas or would they try to do damage control?   
      
   I'm not saying there was no room for improving America's situation   
   but this is what things like Free Trade Agreements are for. It's   
   damaging to financially attack the whole world at once, and whether   
   his "Canada as the 51st State" thing is serious or not, he is doing   
   a huge amount of potentially permanent damage to both of our   
   economies by keeping on about it. We have traded like the best   
   neighbours in the world for over 50 years to the point where our   
   economies are dependant on each other and to end that relationship   
   will cost both of our countries millions of jobs.   
      
   There are no easy answers. Anyone who has been alive for more than   
   60 years or so saw how prices dropped by often 75% or more when   
   electronics started to be imported from Asia rather than making   
   them in our own countries since they pay absolutely crap labour   
   there and force their people to work 60 and 70 hours a week.   
   I doubt many people would see the value of opening new plants in   
   the USA if the things they make are too expensive to buy.   
      
   The highest minimum wage in 31 provinces in China went up this   
   year all the way to $370 a MONTH. The only way to compete with   
   that in North America is if you build near fully automated plants,   
   which means almost no new jobs created, so there's no big advantage   
   to manufacturing them here.   
      
   And a lot of people seem overlook that all tariffs do immediately   
   is make things more expensive for Americans to buy, and that extra   
   cost just goes into the pockets of the Government. You have to look   
   at wide-spread Tariffs as what it is, a fairly substantial Tax you   
   are paying to your government.   
      
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