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   Hello Rob Mccart!   
      
   ** On Tuesday 04.02.25 - 01:40, Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:   
      
    AA>> I don't think I know anyone else with a vertial log   
    AA>> cabin. I know several people with cordwood and haybale   
    AA>> homes in this area though.   
      
    RM> I'd never seen that before we bought here. They take round logs   
    RM> about 7 inches aound and split them down the middle, then offset   
    RM> them and nail the flats together so you have the appearance of   
    RM> vertical round logs on the inside and the outside. These places   
    RM> were built a while back though, 70 years or so..   
      
   I thought the "whole" log would be vertical, as described below     
   by one builder, and not split/overlap like you just described:   
      
   "The most salient advantage is cost. Construction costs of a     
   handcrafted vertical structure are roughly one half of a     
   comparable handcrafted horizontal log building. Due to the     
   conscientious use of smaller diameter logs, along with     
   decreased labour and heavy equipment requirements, expenses are     
   greatly reduced. In this method of construction, shorter length     
   logs are stood upright next to one another to create the     
   structure's walls. These wall logs are double grooved using a     
   chainsaw and "splined" together with plywood splines. Soft cell     
   foam insulation is placed between the splines for added     
   insulation. "   
      
      
    AA>> Can you simply add a layer of insulation on the outside of the   
    >> existing facing? I've seen that done on some homes in the area   
      
    RM> Back around 38 years ago I added framing to the outside..   
    RM> ..or the mice have chewed it to crap..   B)   
      
   Sounds like another simple panel insulation on the outside may     
   be all you need.   
      
      
    RM> What would be better these days would be to remove the siding   
    RM> and have expanding foam insulation sprayed directly onto the   
    RM> outside logs and possibly the floors too.   
      
   Not sure how sprayed foam would work on the outside. Sprayed     
   foam is best when it can go into a confined space otherwise it     
   would expand unchecked.  I've heard that the fumes from sprayed     
   foam could be unpleasant. Up in an attic space it might not be     
   so bad if the fumes can got straight up and out. But on the     
   sides or under a floor, you might be dealing with direct     
   exposure to chemicals for a long time.   
      
      
    RM> I've had mice, squirrels and raccoons rip the insulation   
    RM> loose under the floors to either take it away to make   
    RM> nests or they actually get up between the insulation and   
    RM> the warmer floor and make a nest there..   
      
   Can you hear them there during the winter?  HOw about building     
   a rock/concrete barrier right up against the house/foundation     
   so that they can't find a way to get in?   
      
      
    RM> Yes, it's about 250 feet from my place to where I have the   
    RM> 'box' on the ice where I have my water hole. [...]   
    RM> starting to wear on me some, which is why I shovel the   
    RM> paths so I'm not fighting my way through deep snow as   
    RM> well.   
      
   And.. I presume you place some ash or other grit along the path     
   for added traction?   
      
      
    RM> carrying 2 pails of water, and the hill is too steep to   
    RM> put the pails of water onto a sled and pull it up behind   
    RM> me..   
      
   How about bottles/jugs onto a sled?   
      
      
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