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   Rob Mccart to WARD DOSSCHE   
   Re: LCBO to permanently d   
   15 Aug 23 00:52:00   
   
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   WD>The potential air pollution from a domestic waste incinerator is a hoax.   
      
   WD>It is proven everywhere that such an operation can be run clean. The output   
   f   
     > the ncineration, the ash, is used in construction and roadbuilding. The   
   heat   
     >re is used for steam production and running a power generator.   
      
   WD>I think the main reason to not incinerate in Canada and the USA is the cost,   
     >dfill is shortterm cheaper and incineration will drive-up the cost, i.e. tax   
     >rease. Fear for pollution is the excuse.   
      
   It's possible, if expensive, to incinerate things without causing immediate   
   noticable pollution, but the hidden part is in anything you burn, you are   
   instantly releasing all the carbon built up in those materials and that's of   
   major concern these days, Re: Climate Change..   
      
   (This would be the government position, not necessarily mine.)   
      
   That said, although it's obviously not a hoax, Climate change happens all the   
   time. The world has spent a huge percentage of history with a world average   
   temperature Higher than it is now. We may actually be going through a climate   
   'correction' rather than Global Warming. If we are having the tiniest impact   
   on that, it is slight compared to the sun has done every few thousand years.   
   IOW, we may be able to slow or speed the change by a few decades but the last   
   time we had global warming (4000 years ago) it lasted for 3000 years so the   
   'change' is only going to bother those alive today. Future generations will   
   have to get used to it.   
      
   WD>That was solved here by providing several coloured garbage containers to   
     >the people:   
      
   WD>* Yellow for paper waste = free   
     >* Green for foodscraps/-waste = one lump sum a year, I think 30 Euro 40CAD$   
     >* Black for general waste = is weighed and charged by the kilo (and it is   
     >  remarkable how quickly one learns to reduce that amount...)   
      
   Where I am we have recycle boxes, one for Plastics and metals and another for   
   paper products. Regular garbage is separate and only costs extra if you have a   
   huge amount of it. Paid for with taxes obviously but somewhat controled.   
      
   Personally, I create a small plastic shopping bag of garbage every 2 weeks.   
   Everything else is either composted or recycled.   
   I use that as an example of what most people will know the size of.   
   What I really use is the outer bag that 3 bags (4 Litres) of milk come in,   
   which is actually somewhat smaller.   
      
   We pay to get rid of building materials, wood and shingles and such, and   
   trailer or truck loads of any type of trash.. the bigger stuff.   
      
   I'm in Canada, central Ontario, BTW. The tagline won't reflect that.   
      
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