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   Message 520 of 1,128   
   Ward Dossche to Mike Powell   
   Re: LCBO to permanently d   
   13 Aug 23 20:35:32   
   
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   REPLY: 510.canada@1:2320/105 293e106d   
   TZUTC: 0200   
   Hello Mike,   
       
   MP> I have wondered why we don't incinerate more, but I think it has to do   
   MP> with   
   MP> the potential air pollution and no one wanting to live near one.  I would   
   MP> think it possible to maybe even generate a little power from the act of   
   MP> incinerating but, as you point out, a lot of what would go in the   
   MP> incinerator does not burn well.   
       
   The potential air pollution from a domestic waste incinerator is a hoax.   
       
   It is proven everywhere that such an operation can be run clean. The output   
   from the ncineration, the ash, is used in construction and roadbuilding. The   
   heat here is used for steam production and running a power generator.   
       
   I think the main reason to not incinerate in Canada and the USA is the cost,   
   landfill is shortterm cheaper and incineration will drive-up the cost, i.e.   
   tax increase. Fear for pollution is the excuse.   
       
   That was solved here by providing several coloured garbage containers to the   
   people:   
       
   * Yellow for paper waste = free   
   * Green for foodscraps/-waste = one lump sum a year, I think 30 Euro 40CAD$   
   * Black for general waste = is weighed and charged by the kilo (and it is   
     remarkable how quickly one learns to reduce that amount...)   
       
   There are big blue bags for recyclable plastic bottles, drink cans, food   
   packaging, shrinkwrap = for sale in stores, real cheap   
       
   There's a separate collection for woods; also for large pieces which do not   
   fit in a container.   
       
   So certain fractions are free (the ones that can generate an income for the   
   municipality), the otherones you pay per the weight/volume that you discard.   
       
   There's also a separate free collection for dangerous goods, kitchen oils,   
   printer cassettes, batteries plus a lot more.   
       
   After an initial start-up period this system now functions really well and   
   municipal taxes have not increased. So it generates money.   
       
   It always pained me when flying into Salt Lake City (I know, USA) on an   
   inbound approach from the east and landing to the north you are vectored past   
   2 valleys where there are humongous mounds of waste in landfills, out of view   
   when on the ground. I've seen the same in Montana and people really horrified   
   me there because for example cadmium batteries just go with the rest of the   
   waste into landfill.   
       
   Is that the same in Canada?   
       
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