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   Rob Mccart to AUGUST ABOLINS   
   canada post..   
   30 Sep 25 08:56:02   
   
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   AA>> "The corporation can permanently stop door-to-door home   
   AA>> deliveries, shifting   
     >> addresses to community mailboxes over several years.   
      
   RM> They did that to me close to 20 years ago, and a lot of   
   RM> other people obviously. Some of them have to drive 10   
   RM> miles to get their mail.   
      
   AA>It's been 20 yrs since the introduction of those community   
     >"boxes"?  I didn't think it was that long ago.   
      
   Out in the boonies they got sick of going to individual mail   
   boxes on roads with very few properties, especially in areas   
   where a lot of places are seasonal and they may have to drive   
   miles to drop mail for 1 or 2 people.   
      
   RM> In recent years I've been thinking Canada Post should   
   RM> concentrate more on having a reliable courier service at   
   RM> reasonable prices and maybe cut back on regular mail   
   RM> deliveries to 3 days a week or something.   
      
   AA>But if they cut back the days for regular mail, what will those   
     >employess do on the other 2 work days in the week?   
      
   Either give the carriers 2 routes and go to a 4 day work week and   
   (i.e..) do one route Monday and Wednesday and the other route   
   Tuesday and Thursday..  Or deliver to one route 3 days one week   
   and 2 days the next week switching back and forth.   
      
   That would cut the delivery task force in half.   
   You hate to see people lose their jobs but the corporation has   
   to have been really working at it to get into this bad a shape..   
      
   RM> But of course the Canada Post union (CUPW) not only   
   RM> doesn't want to see any layoffs, they actually want them   
   RM> to hire More people in a business losing around $3 Million   
   RM> a day...   
      
   That $3 Million a day was over several years I now believe.   
   They've been saying for this year they are losing $10 million   
   a day.   
      
   AA>The union seems to think they can tell the CPC how to "run a   
     >business".  I heard the clip by the union leader that "CPC is   
     >making up the losses" or that the CPC has caused them   
     >artificially to somehow justify their bargaining stance.   
      
   I'd say to the start of that, typical union thinking..   
   But probably the situation is being somewhat exaggerated by   
   the CPC as well, also typical.   
      
   But, as I mentioned a while back, My first long term part time   
   job (while in school) was with a company with a powerful union   
   and at one point I was threatened by the union for 'working too   
   hard', something that got me more hours and higher pay than the   
   union contract specified.   
      
   AA>From my rural office, I hear that the workers and delivery   
     >drivers are happy with the benifits and wages - and that they   
     >would not necessarily care to stike. But the biggest sway in   
     >voting is by the workers in the cities.   
      
   Yes, I'm not certain what the situation is here for the drivers.   
   If it hasn't changed in recent years I don't believe they are   
   actually employed by CPC, they are independent contractors who   
   bid for the delivery service each year.   
      
   I wouldn't be surprised if that practice may have been changed   
   by the union a while back to get more workers covered by the   
   union (paying dues)..   
      
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