TID: FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523   
   RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes   
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   CHRS: CP850 2   
   PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20240306   
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   REPLY: 3379.binkd@1:154/700 2b9e0cea   
   Hi Nicholas,   
      
   On 2024-11-16 10:35:03, you wrote to me:   
      
    >>  NB> You can't (or shouldn't) be able to poll a point, unless you went   
    >> out   
    >>  NB> of your way to setup a direct connection with it. However, that would   
    >>  NB> defeat the purpose of that system being a point.   
      
    >> Why not? Two of my points have mailers online, that can be connected   
    >> directly. Their connection info is published in the Z2 point list...   
      
    NB> Seems like they wouldn't really be classified as points (except for the   
   fact   
    NB> that they have a point in their node number), then, if they have mailers   
    NB> online and are able to be connected to by the general population? Maybe we   
    NB> should look up the definition of "point" again?   
      
    NB> In regards to routing netmail, it /should/ be done via the boss node *by   
    NB> default*. If one wants to setup a direct route to a point (or anyone, for   
   that   
    NB> matter), that is up to those two systems. Honestly, I shouldn't even have   
   to   
    NB> explain this, as you know these answers already. Seems as though you just   
    NB> wanted to stir the pot. Instead of replying to me with contradictions,   
   why not   
    NB> try to help the original poster, instead?   
      
    NB> Nothing here has been stated that communication between the two systems   
   has   
    NB> been set up directly. All that was stated was that he was trying to send   
   mail   
    NB> to a point directly (only with mention of his domain line in binkd.conf -   
   no   
    NB> mention whatsoever of his routing configuration) So, I was referring to   
   the   
    NB> defaults.. and also stated "unless you went out of your way to setup a   
   direct   
    NB> connection". I think I covered what I needed to, unless you have more to   
   add?   
      
   I'm not trying to stir the pot. I'm just trying to point out that sometimes   
   someone with a mailer publicly online 24/7, doesn't need, or want, or can't   
   have a full blown node number, a point number will suffice, and is much easier   
   to obtain...   
      
   That's it. And of course these are exceptions to the normal, although still   
   valid use cases.   
   And if a sender doesn't have the connection info for such a point, although   
   publicly available, he has no choice and has to route as you say...   
      
   Bye, Wilfred.   
      
      
   Btw: Why doesn't your message have a REPLY: kludge?   
      
      
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