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   Hello mark!   
      
   On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 11:48 -0500, you wrote to me:   
      
    ml> in the specific case i'm looking at, the problem is a netmail from a   
    ml> node's point to the node but the node forwarded it here... apparently   
    ml> there is no automatic routing in place with the software i'm using   
    ml> that routes netmails from points to their boss node... in this   
    ml> instance, there was a routing problem on the boss node which resulted   
    ml> in the point netmail being sent here... that's been fixed but my   
    ml> system was following its routing table and sending all mail for that   
    ml> boss' points to the NC for forwarding to the node... since i'm also   
    ml> the NC for that net (and a few others) binkd was calling itself which   
    ml> just seems weird...   
      
   This is indeed a routing problem and should be fixed instead of trying to stop   
   binkd from doing its work.   
      
    ml> so far, i've fixed this case by deleting the ?ut file and adjusting my   
    ml> routing to specifically routes this node's point netmails to the node   
    ml> but to have to specifically set routes for all nets' nodes' points to   
    ml> avoid this if i'm also the NC of that net is painful to say the least   
    ml> :/   
      
   Routing should handle every case and never pack anything to your own AKA. This   
   is easily achieved with RNtrack, for example. My system will always resolve   
   final destination properly before packing anything (or discard mail that can't   
   be routed and send notification to sender).   
      
    ml> it just seems that a mailer should recognize mail destined to itself   
    ml> and refuse to make the attempt with an appropraite log notice...   
      
   I do not agree. Mailer reads outbound and delivers what can be delivered.   
      
    ml> i can imagine what a single node system on POTS would do trying to   
    ml> call itself...   
      
   It would do exactly the same. Single line node would receive BUSY all the time   
   though.   
      
      
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