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     Re: Binkd and TLS   
     By: Richard Menedetter to Rob Swindell on Wed Dec 18 2019 09:53 am   
      
    > Hi Rob!   
    >   
    > 17 Dec 2019 15:11, from Rob Swindell -> Michiel van der Vlist:   
    >   
    >  >> The Synchronet fans do not seem to like starttls, they want a   
    >  >> diffrent port.   
    >  RS> The people-in-the-know don't like starttls:   
    >  RS> https://serverfault.com/questions/523804/is-starttls-less-safe-than-tl   
    >  RS> s-ssl   
    >   
    > There was a discussion recently here, where it was stated that those   
    > discussions are focused around mail.   
    > So is your link.   
      
   And BinkP is used for transporting... mail. But that's really irrelevant.   
   Whatever the data is that you want to be kept private, Implicit TLS is   
   superior to Oportunistic / Explicit TLS (e.g. STARTTLS).   
      
    > Alexey posted a link about this (including a link ... sadly I am too busy   
    > currently to deep dive on this).   
    >   
    > And generally talking about "the people in the know" is a bit very   
    > generalized ;)   
    > Some people knowledgable do not like it.   
      
   Knowledge about what? Security experts don't like STARTTLS. BinkP implementers   
   don't like STARTTLS. That's the people that matter.   
      
                                               digital man   
      
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