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     Re: Binkd and TLS   
     By: Michiel van der Vlist to Richard Menedetter on Tue Dec 17 2019 04:10 pm   
      
    > The Synchronet fans do not seem to like starttls, they want a diffrent port.   
      
   The people-in-the-know don't like starttls:   
   https://serverfault.com/questions/523804/is-starttls-less-safe-than-tls-ssl   
      
    > So we alreay have two competing standards...   
      
   Are you refering to Binkd's CRYPT option as one of those standards? Not to   
   pick a nit, but it's not actually a standard. It's not even a proposed   
   standard:   
   http://ftsc.org/docs/fsp-1024.000   
      
   I could also argue that BinkP over TLS (binkps) is an implicitly defined   
   standard since the TCP application protocol (binkp) is already a defined   
   standard:   
   http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-1026.001   
      
   If you take an existing clear-text TCP application protocol (e.g. telnet) and   
   simply define a new TCP port to be used for the implicit TLS transport of a   
   secure implementation of that same protocol (e.g. telnets) - you don't   
   actually need a new protocol definition (e.g. RFC) for the secure protocol to   
   be a "standard". The same is true of binkps.   
      
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