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   Hello Alexey,   
      
    AF> It's not about believing.   
      
   I'm not going anywhere until I believe, in something. I don't mind having my   
   beliefs proven to be worthless, in fact I appreciate it if they are in fact   
   worthless.   
      
    AI>> That's why STARTTLS has been depricated.   
      
    AF> It's not deprecated globally. Deprecation is only _proposed_ for SMTP   
    AF> and other mail protocols and there are reasons for that, but that   
    AF> doesn't mean it is deprecated for everything else.   
      
   I have only ever used STARTTLS with smtp. If STARTTLS is proposed to be   
   depricated for smtp I propose we depricate it here too.   
      
    AF> Synhcronet is not the only software out there.   
      
   No it isn't. It does have a simple to use binkps implementation that other   
   software could use in a similar way.   
      
    AF> With STARTTLS none of this is a problem. Additional configuration flag   
    AF> to require TLS connection is easy to implement, nodelist flag is   
    AF> optional and may be used to tell client to require TLS when connecting   
    AF> to supporting node, and additional DNS SRV records are not needed as   
    AF> well.   
      
   I don't think STARTTLS is going to fly. I really have no strong feelings for or   
    against STARTTLS, I just don't think that is what anyone wants today.   
      
    Ttyl :-),   
            Al   
      
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