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   Michiel van der Vlist to Alan Ianson   
   Binkd and TLS   
   15 Dec 19 09:29:28   
   
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   Hello Alan,   
      
   On Friday December 13 2019 16:21, you wrote to me:   
      
    MV>> It may even have an adverse effect. IMHO for us small fish the   
    MV>> best defence against a hostile regime is to stay below the radar.   
    MV>> Refrain from being an interesting target, so they don't take that   
    MV>> closer look. Using TLS may draw their attention....   
      
    AI> Security by obscurity is not a good way forward.   
      
   That depends. But not using TLS is hardly "obscurity" isn't it?   
      
   I am still puzzled. I appreciate that binkd over TLS may be an interesting   
   challenge from the technical POV. As such I may give it a try myself one day   
   if I figure out how to do it under Windows.   
      
   I can understand why one would use https instead of http when dealing with   
   sensitive information such as bank account numbers etc. But for Fidonet? What   
   are you trying to hide/protect from whom? TLS does not hide the meta data such   
   as what IP communicates with what other IP. Binkd already has encryption on   
   the pkt content level. Plus that 99% of Fidonet is echomail and encryting   
   echomail makes little or no sense. For routed netmail, using encrytion on the   
   transport level does not protect against snooping by sysops en route.   
      
   So other than the pure sensation of a technical challenge, why?   
      
      
   Cheers, Michiel   
      
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