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|    Jimmy Anderson to George Pope    |
|    Re: Todays Bible Verse    |
|    05 Jan 23 10:25:04    |
   
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   -=> George Pope wrote to Daryl Stout <=-   
      
    > Today is Sunday June 6, 2021.   
    > This is the 157th day of the year, there are 208 days left.   
      
    > On this day...   
    > Revelation 13:16-18 And he caused all, both small and   
    > great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark   
    > in their right hand, or in their foreheads. And, no man   
    > could buy or sell, except they that had the mark, or the   
    > name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is   
    > wisdom. Let him who understands count the number of the   
    > beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is   
      
    GP> Please allow me to add in a bit of my own learning on this verse'   
    GP> content. . .   
      
   I know this is an old post I'm replying to... Been AFK for a while   
   and hoping to catch up. :-)   
      
    GP> You do know that the original Koine Greek isn't too specific for   
    GP> prepositions? It could be "in" or "on" the hand/wrist (one word for   
    GP> this area, equiv to "bras" in Latin)   
      
    GP> I never worried about the literal number, because the real concern is   
    GP> ACCEPTING it as your mark of allegiance tot he Beast.   
      
   AGREED!!!   
      
   And I don't think it will be something people are tricked into doing.   
   I think it will be a conscious decision!   
      
    GP> & my fave:   
    GP> b) 6 is the number of man (created on the 6th day; 7 =   
    GP> perfection/comnpletion, so, as Hebrew uses repetition for emphasis ("I   
    GP> say say to you" becomes "Truly, I say to you")   
      
    GP> comparative = said twice   
    GP> superlative = 3 times.   
      
    GP> So 666 emphathises that the Beast falls as far short of God as is   
    GP> possible.   
      
   My pastor agrees with you as to the number of a man (the 6) but I've not heard   
   of it being tripled for emphasis! I do know that's why things are doubled   
   elsewhere.   
      
    GP> It's our job to finish creatoin of ourselves, by polishing ourselves to   
    GP> always be of a higher order than we started off as (animalistic) & to   
    GP> elevate ourselves to be One with the Creator upon our deaths.   
      
   I don't think we can ever attain a higher level on our own.   
      
    GP> I'm sorry, but I don't ascribe to the Roman teaching that we are born   
    GP> evil. God don't create junk -- we are born with our souls in balance &   
    GP> our choices either elevate them or dirty them. . .   
      
   What about once you HAVE sinned though? Even if you don't believe in the   
   Adamic view that we are born in sin?    
      
    GP> Do we wish to live so one day we will join with our heavenly Father, or   
    GP> do we prefer to live so we eventually live in the soil with the animals   
    GP> & their dung, with our souls destroyed as unworthy of eternity?   
      
    GP> I've made my choice. . . & try hard every day to live like it.   
      
   So you don't believe in Jesus paying for our sins?   
      
   Just trying to understand where you're coming from... And if this is   
   covered in a later message I apologize in advance!   
      
    GP> The problem with saying every person is born worthy of death for Adam's   
    GP> sin is it contradicts God's teaching that nobody shall be put to death   
    GP> for the sins of his father (unlike in the Hammurabbi Code) but each   
    GP> shall be put to death only for his own capital crimes.   
      
   I might have been born into sin, but I also have the tendency to sin on   
   my own. More than that, I HAVE sinned. I'm not under judgement for anyone   
   but me, but I've done enough on my own to deserve capital punishment -    
   I've lied, stolen, lusted, etc.   
      
    GP> Sorry if I've offended any(e.g. those of the Roman or Greek churches)   
    GP> today; it's not my intent. I'm a Truth Teller & I'll always tell the   
    GP> truth. "Do not bear false witness" really means "Bear true witness" &   
    GP> is the equivalent to "I swear to tell the whole truth & nothing but the   
    GP> truth, so help me, God"   
      
    GP> I bear/shine my true witness with joy & light!   
      
   Amen! Love it, and not offended at all. :-)   
      
      
      
      
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