TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A48   
   MSGID: 1:218/820 78d4feaa   
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    TM> Didn't know there anything to make sense for?  It started in 2003, and    
    TM> released ever ver inbetween.   If you goto the offical RG website of    
    TM> www.rgbbs.info, you'll find them all there and in order in which they   
    TM> were  released.   
      
   So I've stayed out of the conversation til now but feel compelled to respond a   
   bit here. I don't use Synchronet /or/ Renegade and don't have a dog in this   
   specific fight, but...where's the history file? A comprehensive whatsnew or   
   what differentiates one version to the next? Unless you're a Renegade diehard,   
   I don't see many people walking up and looking at RG as an option without   
   understanding what's happening with each release. It's pretty black box. Just   
   my $.02.   
      
    TM> Why would I make BBS setup with doors and everything else?  So some dumb   
    TM> ass  can unzip it and put it online?  No.  This hobby was NEVER meant to   
    TM> be that  and I refuse to give into morons that refuse to learn.  Just   
    TM> like those stupid mystic youtube videos.  Seriously?  If you can't setup   
    TM> the BBS software from  the docs, YOU DO NOT NEED TO RUN ONE because you   
    TM> do not understand it at all!   
      
   This hobby is whatever someone wants it to be. This is very gatekeeper-ish.   
   There are many cool BBSes online that leverage some more modern technology.   
   And the Mystic YouTube videos democratized FTN.   
      
   I rebuilt a car engine with the help of YouTube. No purists yelled at me about   
   doing it wrong since I didn't sit there with a howto manual printed in black   
   and white.   
      
   BBSing is still very niche but it's also a thing that has moved on a bit for   
   many people, and that's ok. I don't think it's appropriate to maintain a BBS   
   software and then claim everyone else is doing it wrong simply because they do   
   things differently. This is a hot take, but that's pretty immature IMO.   
      
    TM> Third, how many retards run their BBS in the cloud?   That is STUPID.    
    TM> If you  don't want to put the time in, the money, the hardware, get out   
    TM> of the hobby.  Oh hi, I run a BBS it's at blah blah blah, I log in every   
    TM> 5 weeks and see if  the VM on my cloudhost I PAY stupid amounts of money   
    TM> for is still working or  even STILL there.   
      
   How many people let the internet into their home firewall because they want to   
   run a DOS BBS? If you ask me, /THAT/ is what's retarded. I travel for work a   
   lot and run everything in the cloud because I'm not 14 sitting in my parents'   
   basement waiting for someone to dial into my BBS.   
      
   Furthermore, with all this gatekeeperism, I sure hope you only serve dialup,   
   because using something as modern as TCP/IP is not what BBSes were intended   
   for!   
      
   Anyway I don't intend to go back and forth and/or fight about this stuff, I   
   just felt compelled to call out the immaturity and gatekeeping here. Yeah,   
   you're talking to jas, but you're posting on a forum with other people, and   
   your general attitude here is one that makes me scratch my head.   
      
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