CHRS: CP437 2   
   MSGID: 1:18/200@fidonet 56307655   
   PID: MBSE-BBS 1.0.7.12 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)   
   TZUTC: -0400   
   TID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.7.12 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)   
   -=> Alan Ianson wrote to Sean Dennis <=-   
      
    AI> It seems quite today in the Irex realm.   
      
   Charles' system may be in Fidonet but he's not.   
      
   Internet Red, like Telegard, died the minute its author graduated college   
   and started making money.  However, Charles can be found if needed.  Tim   
   Strike, the author of Telegard, actively avoids his BBSing past.  A few   
   years ago, I tracked down Tim and called him at his work.  As soon as I   
   identified myself, Tim hung up on me.   
      
   I have heard a bunch of bullshit excuses from both authors about not   
   releasing their code.  Charles, at least, had a good reason: the use of   
   commercial libraries (though that code could be rewritten).  Tim bleated   
   about copyright issues and other trivial things that were, to me, an obvious   
   attempt at pinning the blame on everyone but himself.   
      
   So that's why I dropped both products.  At least now, if something breaks, I   
   can fix it.   
      
   Years ago, in the IREX echo when Charles was still active, I was complaining   
   about a lack of support.  He angrily replied to me, offering to give me my   
   registration fee back.  I informed him the money was not the point.  He   
   immediately disappeared into the ether after that.   
      
   I have been supporting my own programs for 21 years now without any issue   
   but it's never been about the money for me.   
      
   Charles' and Tim's actions pointed out where their loyalty lies and it's not   
   with their users.   
      
   If I were you, I'd use something else than IRex.  Its BinkD and FTP server   
   are both buggy as hell.   
      
   Later,   
   Sean   
      
       
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