ml> FWIW: AFAIK, the entire telnet chain needs to be in binary mode for   
   ml> tunneled file transfers to work properly...   
   ml>    
   ml> in other words, if there's five telnet hops between the user and the   
   ml> remote system, all five of those hops need to be initiated in binary   
   ml> mode...   
   ml> what do i mean by "telnet hops"? consider that you allow users to telnet   
   ml> out to other systems and those other systems also allow telnetting out...   
      
   Correct, that is exactly what is going on.  Even though I might be able to   
   force binary telnet mode on my BBS, the telnet session that Mystic kicks off   
   to the BBS would also need to be set to binary mode.   
      
   Unfortunately, there is no control for that at the present time.   
      
   - Mark   
      
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