>    
   > there used to be but they were shut down long ago... i have historic copies o   
   > the echolist which is where i start looking for echos i may be interested in.   
   >    
      
   I've tried getting help from Apple, but they're too interested in selling   
   product, and suggest I go to the various forums online. Like Intel and   
   Microsoft, Apple's answer to everything is to buy new equipment.   
      
   I tried the forums, and like the Synchronet echoes in FidoNet, they all act   
   like they are too good to help a noob with OLD equipment. I'd actually call   
   their attitudes snotty.   
      
   Oh well, I guess I'll sell all my old Mac machines. Probably won't get much,   
   but they will be out of the way.   
      
   By the way, any other chat on this issue SHOULD be taken to private email (see   
   addy in first post).   
      
   Thanks   
      
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