> I took Everything down a bit ago in an effort to start from scratch...   
   > I thought  I was totally boned. .   
      
    N> I think dingo is correct, trying to use your outside ip to loop back   
    N> via port forwarding will never work.    
      
   i beg to differ... on "properly" configured firewalls, it can, will, and does   
   work... the question is who's definition of "proper" is correct... those where   
   this capability works or those where this capability is strictly forbidden...   
      
   in any case, all my systems use my external (dynamic) WAN address(es) to   
   access my public services... however, newer versions of my firewall break this   
   and force the use of a split domain which then fraks numerous of my services   
   which are based on the external WAN IP and can't work with my internal RFC1918   
   addresses at the same time :/   
      
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