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   Message 676 of 2,762   
   Torbjorn Mohn to Nicholas Boel   
   Re: Doors that work here..   
   31 Oct 13 18:17:38   
   
   >> As I said, DOS doors will not work in Windows, there is no way that the   
   >> OS will let an application (BBBS) pass "DOS box information" to the   
   >> TCPIP stack. End of story. Kim has explained it to me, and there is   
   >> nothing that can be done about it appearently.   
      
   > First off, I just about guarantee you DOS doors can be run in Linux. As long   
   > as you're able to run a shell script or executable from the BBS itself, it's   
   > possible. Dosemu is the only program that will work for multinode use,   
   > though. Dosemu handles executing the door game, all you have to do from the   
   > BBS is launch Dosemu and pass one or two arguments (like the node number, for   
   > example) and the game you're executing. Batch files handled by Dosemu can   
   > handle the rest. If BBBS can do the above, it is VERY possible.   
      
   I've never used Linux at home, so I can be of no assitance here. :-)   
      
      
   > As for Windows.. if you're running a 32bit version of Windows, it should also   
   > be possible. 64 bit windows gave up all support for 16 bit programs. So it is   
   > not the fault of BBBS, but Windows itself.   
      
   Yes it is. BBBS for Windows is a 32 bit windows native program, hence it will   
   not work with DOS based doors running in a "dos box". It runs fine on the   
   local screen, but Windows will not let you pass that information to the Telnet   
   node. So the user will be "blind" :-(   
      
   > Most people dedicate a somewhat simple system to running a BBS (as far as   
   > specs are concerned). If you have less than 4gb RAM, there is no need to run   
   > a 64bit operating system.   
      
   Well.. it depends on how your setup is. I'm not "most people" :-) I Have a HP   
   Proliant ML350 G6 system with Windows Server 2008 R2 (64 bit), and it handles   
   just about everything except klient computing in my home. My BBBS system is   
   running on a VMware VM and takes almost nothing as far as RAM and CPU   
   resources from the iron. :-)   
      
   > Using a 32 bit version of Windows should work fine   
   > running DOS doors with any BBS software, without the use of any kind of DOS   
   > emulator whatsoever.   
      
   It does not. The Native BBBS (32 bits) for Windows will not work with DOS   
   doors. I have discussed it with Kim Heino, and he can confirm it here if he   
   reads this echo.   
      
   You MAY get it to work if you run an old DOS based BBBS verison on a 32 bit   
   Windows platform. However BBBS for DOS is no longer compiled, and you will be   
   stuck with version 4.00, since that was the last DOS version made.   
      
   > Maybe that will give some "hope" to new coming sysops wanting to run BBBS   
   > with DOS door games. But it probably shouldn't be passed around that it's   
   > completely impossible -- unless the BBS software itself is at fault for the   
   > reasons.   
      
   I don't want to take away any hopes to get this to work out there, I'm just   
   trying to bring some realism into it. If I'm wrong, and I have misundertood   
   Kim, fine with me, but until such time that somone succeed and live to tell me   
   how to do it, I trust the information i have been given. Sorry..   
      
   Take care..   
      
   rgds   
   Torbjørn   
      
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