Hello mark,   
      
   > On 2018 Nov 21 15:01:14, you wrote to me:   
      
   >> it made no difference to the connection issue of being able to make   
   >> outbound connections. I was able to connect and ping the router. Oddly   
   >> I was also able to ping the Google's DNS servers ok. But was unable to   
   >> connect or ping Google itself OR anywhere else.   
      
   >if you're still playing with this problem, i'm curious what traceroute says...   
   > ping is only basically helpful... traceroute can point to where the breakage   
   > is...   
      
   Well, therein lies a problem. Traceroute is not included in a default Ubuntu   
   install. And because the internet is not available during or after the install   
   process. I am unable to install it via apt-get. I will look at installing it   
   from external storage if possible.    
      
   Installed Ubuntu 17.04 and the internet was unavailable as expected during and   
   after the install process. Also as expected I can still ping the router and   
   Google's DNS servers but nothing else beyond the router. Linux Mint v19 which   
   was on the problem PC previously could see and access the internet during and   
   after the install just fine.    
      
   I installed Ubuntu 17.04 and then 18.04.1 LTS on another PC and both Ubuntu   
   versions installed fine. That PC has a Asus motherboard and the problem PC has   
   a 1 yr old Gigabyte gaming motherboard. It's looking like Ubuntu's have some   
   sort of problem with that Gigabyte MB. But... That doesn't explain why Ubuntu   
   DID at one time see and use the internet without an apparent problem as BBBS   
   had been on the problem PC and had in/out connections hourly.   
      
   I'm looking at saying the heck with it am going/staying with Linux Mint on   
   that PC.   
      
      
   Jeff   
      
      
      
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