Hello mark,   
      
   > On 2018 Nov 20 07:02:48, you wrote to me:   
      
   >> That was my thought at one time also.   
      
   > ahhh...   
      
   >> Again the fact that I don't understand is the connection problem just   
   >> suddenly appeared and no changes had been made on my end that   
   >> could/might have caused the problem.   
      
   > no driver updates or anything like that? what nic are you using and what   
   > drivers are loading for it?   
      
   Nope. I had been using the same integrated NIC that all versions of Ubuntu   
   Linux that I had installed on that PC saw and installed drivers. I in fact had   
   temporarily disabled the integrated NIC and tried both USB based NIC  which   
   Ubuntu immediately saw and installed. I also installed a PCI based Intel dual   
   port NIC and installed it using it's Linux drivers and Ubuntu saw the PCI NIC   
   had the same connection issue.   
      
   >> During the installs both Ubuntu and Mint saw the network interface and   
   >> got DHCP assigned IP's. But Ubuntu couldn't connect to acquire any   
   >> updated and third party files. But... Linux Mint could acquire any   
   >> files it needed without any apparent problem.   
      
   > and this was with ubuntu 18.04? server or one with a GUI?   
   > is that #$(%!^ network-manager or systemd involved?   
   > is udev assigning the proper interface name to the nic?   
      
   Well.. I have installed Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04, 18.04, and 18.10 and Linux Mint   
   19.0, and CentOS v7. The OS at the time of the problem was Ubuntu 16.04. Once   
   the problem occurred all versions of Ubuntu installed had the same problem.    
   While Mint and CentOS didn't have the same problem using the same integrated   
   NIC. All installs were a complete wipe and a fresh install.   
      
      
   Jeff   
      
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