>> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:52:17 -0400, Doug Freyburger wrote   
   (in article ):   
      
   > David Williams wrote:   
   >>    
   >    
   >>> I just don't think you should be allowed to   
   >>> call that stuff "pizza"!   
   >>    
   >> Yeah, yeah. Get over it. NYC doesn't own the word "pizza."   
   >    
   > It's my theory that folks who only like their own local version of pizza   
   > actually don't like pizza. <<   
      
   No, I (I can't speak for "folks," just myself) don't like imprecision in my    
   food descriptions. Pizza, historically, started out flat. I think that    
   thick stuff, and I don't care how chewy or flaky or whatever it is, is really    
   just cooked bruschetta or focaccia, but it doesn't bear much resemblance to    
   real "pizza." I similarly dislike the recent trend of calling dense cakes    
   made with flour "tortes," because a torte, historically, is a flourless cake.    
    (It also bothers me a LOT to see "flourless torte" in a description of a    
   torte, because that's redundant, sort of like saying "ISBN number"). And,    
   for the record, I don't even like calling so-called "Sicilian pizza" pizza.   
      
   We have a horrible food tradition out here in the Philadelphia suburbs called    
   "tomato pie." Someone always brings one to large gatherings. It is    
   so-called Sicilian-style "pizza" WITHOUT CHEESE. Just dough and sauce.    
   Horrible. It always disappears as soon as the box is opened. I just don't    
   understand it. BUT...no one here would dare call it a "pizza."   
      
   Anyway, I make no judgements about whether it's good food or not --    
   personally, I don't care for so much heavy dough with my sauce and vegetables    
   -- but I just do not think it is "pizza."   
      
   >> They like food they had as children which is   
   > not the same thing. <<   
      
   Wow, that is *really* insulting. Especially since I consider myself as    
   someone whose tastes have evolved considerably since childhood. I'm the    
   person who doesn't think the Indian food is spicy enough unless my nose is    
   running, and in the house in which I grew up, Cantonese was considered    
   exotic. :-p If anything, if you're going to attribute maturity levels to    
   styles of pizza, I'd have to class deep dish style as the more childish,    
   since it has so much dough, and comfort foods are nearly always higher in    
   starch than more sophisticated fare.   
      
   Amy   
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