On Sep 7, 10:39 am, Doug Freyburger  wrote:   
   > Joseph DeMartino wrote:   
   > > "John W. Kennedy"  wrote:   
   >   
   > >> Granted that Troy, say, has a New England vibe, where does this leave   
   > >> Buffalo?   
   >   
   > In the rust belt.  Sigh/argh.   
   >   
   > > Hence my reference to the Hudson river as the western boundary of "New   
   > > York")   
   >   
   > That's backwards.  One side of the Hudson is the real New York with   
   > dairy cattle and chicken wings   
   ...and monasteries and Natty Bumppo's Wild West and Chatauqua and nine-   
   and-sixty highways all numbered "17", except the one that's the   
   punchline to the joke "Do you spell your name with a "V", Herr   
   Wagner?", and, until lately, the last bastion of the Remington-Rand   
   round-holed punched card...   
   > and finger lakes   
   ...that mysteriously, from time to time, explode in the night....   
   --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32   
    * Origin: Time Warp of the Future BBS - Home of League 10 (1:14/400)