Joseph DeMartino wrote:   
   > "John W. Kennedy"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Granted that Troy, say, has a New England vibe, where does this leave   
   >> Buffalo?   
      
   In the rust belt.  Sigh/argh.   
      
   > Hence my reference to the Hudson river as the western boundary of "New   
   > York")   
      
   That's backwards.  One side of the Hudson is the real New York with   
   dairy cattle and chicken wings and finger lakes.  That other side of the   
   Hudson can be called Apple or Empire or Gotham or Upstate whatever you   
   like.   
   --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32   
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