>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:38:50 -0500, Nicole Massey wrote   
   (in article ):   
      
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   > "Amy Guskin"  wrote in message=20   
   > news:0001HW.CCD823C6074D0F57B051B9BF@news.eternal-september.org...   
   >>>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 09:03:21 -0500, Nicole Massey wrote   
   >> (in article ):   
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   >>> The NFB is a problem sometimes for blind folks. They contend that=20   
   >>> blindness   
   >>> isn't a handicap, society's approach to it is what gives blind folks   
   >>> trouble. They're anti-guide dog, instead preferring blind folks to us=   
   e a   
   >>> long "glide" cane that doesn't contact the ground, and they're also=20   
   >>> against   
   >>> talking elevators and chirp signals on traffic lights.  <<   
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   >> Well, that is extremely interesting and curious. Nicole, I am curious =   
   what   
   >> your position is on all of that?   
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   > I find the position that blindness isn't a handicap to be one that migh=   
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   > useful in getting political support, but not of much use actually helpi=   
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   > those who are blind.<<   
      
   That's really unfortunate. I wonder why they would be so positional if it=   
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   actually fails to help most of the community they aim to represent?   
      
   >> And I'm=20   
   > neutral on the traffic signals -- unless everyone is driving a Prius <<   
      
   Guilty!  I am quite careful when I see *anyone* crossing anywhere near me=   
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   because it really is completely silent.   
      
   >> My values are more=20   
   > in keeping with the American Council of the Blind, though I'm a bit=20   
   > frustrated that these two organization were so busy fighting with each =   
   other=20   
   > during the talks for the ADA that the mobility folks managed to get bro=   
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   > applications of what are commonly known as "wheelchair ramps of death" =   
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   > blind folks. (Curbs are superior for blind people over ramps because th=   
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   > signal the end of a sidewalk and the beginning of a more dangerous stre=   
   et -- =20   
      
   > ramps with bumps, sometimes jokingly called "Acne Ramps" or "measles ra=   
   mps"=20   
   > are better than nude ramps but not as good as curbs)  <<   
      
   I don't think I've ever seen a ramp with bumps =8B=A0will keep an eye out=   
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   them. And, what you say about the curb signalling the start of the street=   
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   makes complete sense! I had no idea there was so much division in the bli=   
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   community. I guess it's like any other insular community =8B a theatre tr=   
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   a family, a newsgroup =8B familiarity ultimately breeds dissent!   
      
   Amy   
      
      
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