Doug Freyburger wrote:   
   > Blair Leatherwood wrote:   
   >> Was anyone else disappointed that there was no mention whatsoever of The    
   >> Outer Limits?   
   >    
   > Before I watched it I saw the names in the description and wondered at   
   > the list.  As I watched it I realized it was about the people far more   
   > than it was about the shows.   
   >    
   > When it mentioned the other shows that Irwin Allen produced I was   
   > impressed as I was a fan of a lot of them.  I got why he was in the   
   > list.  I recognized his name.   
   >    
   > When The Outer Limits was mentioned in this post it occured to me that I   
   > had no idea who had produced either the BW or color versions.  Maybe   
   > they didn't even have a single person in charge?  So I looked up the   
   > original BW show in IMDB.  I didn't remember Leslie Stevens.  Then I   
   > started reading the list of his other credits.  Wow.  Both of the OL   
   > series and a bunch of other stuff.  Very impressive.   
   >    
   > But it remains that before looking him up in IMDB I did not recognize   
   > his name while I recognized Irwin Allen just from it being listed   
   > together with Gene Roddenbury and Rod Sterling.  For a show about the   
   > people, name recognition matters.   
   >    
   > I'll go with disappointed but I do understand why he wasn't in the list.   
   >    
      
   I'll go with that argument for the Science Fiction show.  The Westerns    
   program was more about the shows themselves.  The issue I'm having with    
   the whole Pioneers of Television series is that there doesn't seem to be    
   a consistent point of view or an adequate explanation of the point of    
   view for a particular genre.  In some genres, it's the show    
   creators/runners who we identify with; in others, it's the show itself    
   (can you tell me who created Gunsmoke or Bonanza?  Did you know that Sam    
   Peckinpah created The Rifleman?  I sure as heck didn't).   
      
   As I said earlier, I agree that Outer Limits wouldn't qualify based on    
   the criteria used for the creation of this particular review of science    
   fiction on TV; I just thought it was odd that it didn't even get a name    
   check as a precursor.   
      
   Blair   
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