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   On Sat 15-Nov-2025 11:57a, Aviation Hq@2:292/854.0 said to Rug Rat:   
   AH> RR> Won't be the last, will Boeing's pocket be deep enough?   
   AH>     
   AH> Boeing must, indeed, have deep pockets ...   
   AH>     
   AH> 1/ There's this MAX8-thing which has far from ended   
   AH> 2/ Most likely there will now be an MD11-thing after the Louisville crash   
   That remains to be seen.  While the DC-10 had the engine/pylon seperation in   
   79, it was found to be the cause of an airline mx practice that the   
   manufacture refused to sign off on.  The MD-11 has a completely different   
   pylon design, as far as we know....  None of the other grounded / inspected   
   aircraft had any issues..   The seperation could very well be a red herring.    
   The engine attachment pins after all are designed to shear and seperate the   
   engine to prevent catastrophic dammage to the wing, could an uncontained   
   engine failure have put such stress on the engine mount?  Then you just have   
   to determine why number 3 had a compressor stall, which put the final nail in   
   the coffin, in a quad or 3 holer, you are not climbing on a single engine.   
      
   AH> 3/ There are several historic liability issues re: 787-construction   
   AH> problems   
      
   All new airframes have teething problems..   DC-10, MD-11, 747.. ETC..     
   AH> 4/ Issues with Spirit Aerosystems.  Well, since Boeing BOUGHT Spirit,   
   hopefull they will get those issues sorted.  Never should have farmed out   
   manufacturing.   They were needlessly trying to duplicate the Airbus   
   consortium's manufacturing processes.  Optics alone was a bad idea,,   
      
   AH> 5/ Delays with 787-deliveries.     
   AH> 6/ Ridiculous delays with the 777X which should have been delivered   
   AH> starting   
   AH>    2020 and now is delayed "at least" until 2027   
   AH> 7/ There's the Air Force One delay..   That was mostly Trump induced..   
   AH>     
   AH> All of these are costing tonnes of money... But the military branch is a   
   AH> cash-cow...    
      
   Military / government contracts will always fare better than Civilian..  Just   
   ask LM.   
      
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