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   Aviation HQ to Rug Rat   
   Re: Used Boeing 747-8s are converted to    
   20 Oct 25 13:59:04   
   
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   REPLY: 1:135/250@fidonet 68f60c8d   
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   RR> The FAA will not certify additional Combi's without a fixed bulkhead and   
   RR> integrated fire supression, which other combi's like the 737, 747 did not   
   RR> have.  Protocol for fighting a cargo file on a combi was to have the   
   RR> cabin crew fight it with portable fire extinguishers.  (This came about   
   RR> after the South African Airways fire..)..   
       
   While you are correct on the South African crash, noteworthy is that it was a   
   747-200 and subsequently the fire-fighting capabilities in the 747-400   
   combi's, like they were flown by e.g. KLM, were upgraded. The bulkhead? yes   
   ... that would have been very tricky ...   
       
   Nevertheless. the FAA remainded opposed to their usage, not out of safety   
   concern.   
       
   As a noteworthy addition, during the Covid19 pandemic KLM was flying full-pax   
   747s between China and the Netherlands to transport large quantities of   
   medical supplies ... without passengers. The supplies were also stored in the   
   passenger cabin. As a result the full cabin crew was on board just in case of   
   fires.   
       
   And Delta flying daily four passenger 767s into Brussels to collect the Covid   
   vaccines which were produced by Pfizer in Puurs (Belgium), also flew with no   
   passengers and a full cabin crew for safety.   
      
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