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|    Aviation HQ to Rug Rat    |
|    Re: Used Boeing 747-8s are converted to     |
|    20 Oct 25 13:59:04    |
      MSGID: 2:292/854 15403411       REPLY: 1:135/250@fidonet 68f60c8d       TZUTC: 0200       RR> The FAA will not certify additional Combi's without a fixed bulkhead and       RR> integrated fire supression, which other combi's like the 737, 747 did not       RR> have. Protocol for fighting a cargo file on a combi was to have the       RR> cabin crew fight it with portable fire extinguishers. (This came about       RR> after the South African Airways fire..)..               While you are correct on the South African crash, noteworthy is that it was a       747-200 and subsequently the fire-fighting capabilities in the 747-400       combi's, like they were flown by e.g. KLM, were upgraded. The bulkhead? yes       ... that would have been very tricky ...               Nevertheless. the FAA remainded opposed to their usage, not out of safety       concern.               As a noteworthy addition, during the Covid19 pandemic KLM was flying full-pax       747s between China and the Netherlands to transport large quantities of       medical supplies ... without passengers. The supplies were also stored in the       passenger cabin. As a result the full cabin crew was on board just in case of       fires.               And Delta flying daily four passenger 767s into Brussels to collect the Covid       vaccines which were produced by Pfizer in Puurs (Belgium), also flew with no       passengers and a full cabin crew for safety.              --- DB4 - 20230201        * Origin: AVIATION ECHO HQ (2:292/854)       SEEN-BY: 80/1 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/14 305 153/7715 154/110 218/700       SEEN-BY: 221/1 226/30 227/114 229/110 317 400 426 428 470 664 700       SEEN-BY: 229/705 280/464 291/111 292/854 2226 8125 301/1 320/219 322/757       SEEN-BY: 335/364 342/200 396/45 460/58 633/280 712/848 902/26 5001/100       SEEN-BY: 5075/35       PATH: 292/854 229/426           |
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