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   Message 138 of 717   
   Ward Dossche to Roger Nelson   
   Re: Birdstrike at Barcelona Airport   
   11 Mar 19 09:20:07   
   
   MSGID: 2:292/854 0b12291c   
   REPLY: 2:292/854 020d323a   
   RN> I wonder what damage the engines suffered?   
       
   The airplane was taken off-line but as Barcelona is a main base for Ryanair   
   they have a similar plane there standing-by in a rotation scheme, they have   
   that at 7 or 8 airports, so when a plane goes off-line for whatever reason   
   they have a backup ready, fueled and with crew ready to ferry the plane to   
   wherever. Due to the selection of those bases a back-up plane can be flown-in   
   within 90 minutes at the most except for certain exotic destinations   
   (Fuertaventura, Gran Canaria, Tenerife...)   
       
   The plane reached its parking spot under its own power and departing   
   passengers were taken to the back-up plane, they didn't even know.   
       
   Ryanair gets lots of flak in Europe but they're well organized, I flew them   
   dozens of time and never a problem. Once the plane had a birdstrike and we   
   were barely delayed.   
       
   RN> Also, the one right after that with the Air Canada flight 85 running out   
   RN> of fuel at 41,000 feet was most interesting.   
       
   AC85 is Tel Aviv to Toronto.   
       
   Make that AC143 and we're alright.   
       
   But they still had land to put their wheels down on.   
       
   More critical is a similar situation with air Transat 236 from Toronto to   
   Lisbon in 2001 which ran out of fuel over the Atlantic due to a leak. It   
   wasn't really made into a book nor in a movie, not spectacular enough but way   
   more critical as it occured over water.   
       
   Here's the pretty accurate reference:   
       
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236   
       
   The difference, probably, with the 2 recent 737 MAX crashes is that both crews   
   on those Canadian planes followed the golden rule "fly the plane" and not   
   start tinkering with computers in case of a problem.   
       
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