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   MSGID: 7982.asian_li@1:275/100 269e3267   
   REPLY: 2:221/1.58@fidonet fa6e6475   
   PID: Synchronet 3.14a-Win32  Dec 31 2006 MSC 1200   
   TID: SBBSecho 2.11-Win32 r1.182 Dec 31 2006 MSC 1200   
     Re: Asia/Asian?   
     By: August Abolins to Christian Jacob on Mon Mar 14 2022 09:34 am   
      
    > Hello Christian!   
    >    
    > ** On Monday 14.03.22 - 08:34, you wrote to Carol:   
    >    
    >  >>>>> Getting started with Telegram is just TWO steps:   
    >  >>>>>   
    >  >>>>> [1] Install Telegram   
    >  >>>>> [2] Send %HELP and %LIST to the @Fido2telebot to get   
    >  >>> started!   
    >  >>>>>   
    >  >>>>> Do Aftershock/HotdogEd make it easier than that?  :D   
    >    
    >    
    >  CJ> ALthough FidoNet is not as popular as in the 20s anymore   
    >  CJ> and I really do understand that people who actually still   
    >  CJ> use it would love to see more users come back or even   
    >  CJ> experience FidoNet the first time, I don't think that   
    >  CJ> telegram is the best way.   
    >    
    > Telegram (+ @Fido2telebot) may not be the best final solution..   
    > but it's a useful option and a step forward to reach smartphone   
    > users.   
    >    
    >    
    >  CJ> It IS modern and well adopted, but personally, I don't   
    >  CJ> trust telegram. Also, this platform has quite a tendency   
    >  CJ> to attract people with kind of a weird view on the world.   
    >    
    > User's of Telegram don't get any of the "weird view" channels   
    > unless they actually look for then and join them.  There are no   
    > ads promoting that stuff unlike the "Suggestions" system found   
    > on Facebook for example.  You can be certain that Facebook is   
    > to be trusted much less than Telegram.  ;)   
    >    
    > The Fidonet groups are private. In otherwords, searching for   
    > "asian_link" in the standard S)earch feature won't turn   
    > anything up.  Prospective participants need to use the   
    > specially crafted invite-link that the @Fido2telebot provides   
    > following the %LINK command.   
    >    
    > This privacy also makes sure that no robots or spammers can   
    > post anything.   
    >    
    > The one for this echo is:   
    >    
    > ASIAN_LINK (https://t.me/+TlC5K7EkqxOR8E4u) - ASIAN_LINK is a   
    > friendly international Fidonet chat echo.  All are welcome to   
    > participate.   
    >    
    > You can see the little intro-page on the web before you join!   
    >    
    >    
    >  CJ> Lately, I thought that reviving FidoNet especially in the   
    >  CJ> eastern reagion of Zone 2 would allow people from   
    >  CJ> respective countries to communicate with the "outside"   
    >  CJ> world bypassing their governments' control over the   
    >  CJ> internet.   
    >    
    > Telegram on it's own can also be used to make live-voice   
    > "calls" between contacts.  It's rather quite efficient that   
    > way.   
    >    
    >  CJ> Solutions such as Telegram would not fit into that idea   
    >  CJ> though. :)   
    >    
    > I'll use it to primarily have it notify me when a post is made   
    > in a favourite echo. Then, it's a quick way to just take a look   
    > at the messages from the convenience of the phone that might be   
    > my my beside.   
    >    
    > If I want to engage in a reply, I simply use the desktop   
    > version of the app on my computer - as I am doing now - 'cuz   
    > typing all this is much easier with a full-size keyboard.   
    >    
    > As people are introduced to the content on some basic Fidonet   
    > echos, hopefully they can be steered toward other tools (nntp,   
    > offline readers, bbsing, etc) to get a more emmersive   
    > experience of echomail - if they want - just as you have done   
    > with the newly revived and well-supported Winpoint!   
    >    
    >    
    > --   
    >   ../|ug   
    >    
      
   I think if telegram existed when Russel Tiedt was running Z5, they might still   
   be here todaay as a zone.  In the end, it was a collection trying to push   
   fidonet over packet radio and some other oddball thing explained as related to   
   ham radio related signals.   
      
     xxcarol   
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