REPLY: 2:280/464 5fc76588   
   MSGID: 1:153/7001 5fc7b5b0   
   Hey Wilfred!   
      
    WvV> I would call it broken, with only the MSGID flag...   
      
   No more broken than with all the additional flags.  Note that this reply   
   contains a REPLY flag that matches your MSGID as per specs, as well as   
   nonconforming MSGIDs that certain software generates.  Also the hex part of   
   the MSGID can be used to generate a real datetime stamp accurate to the second   
   and is vastly more informative than any so-called fix for the obsolete MSG   
   header's datetime stamp;   
      
     $ date --date="@$(printf "%d" 0x5fc6f369)"   
   Wed 02 Dec 2020 01:52:41 AM UTC   
      
   I can easily write a C routine using the strftime() function of time.h to do   
   the exact same thing as coreutils' date is doing in the above commandline,   
   except that I am now officially retired after abandoning the only software   
   capable of generating fidonet pkts.  However as shown below the hex part as is   
   will expire in on;   
      
    $ date --date="@$(printf "%d" 0xffffffff)"   
   Sun 07 Feb 2106 06:28:15 AM UTC   
      
   Always something broken in FTN messaging which even you have admitted will   
   never, ever get fixed.  All I did was to reduce the breakage with the absolute   
   minimum of data required to make this work, which it obviously does given your   
   reply to the original.  That is more than can be said about most of the   
   abandonware still in use.   
      
   It appears that your MSGID carries the same information;   
      
     $ date --date="@$(printf "%d" 0x5fc76588)"   
   Wed 02 Dec 2020 09:59:36 AM UTC   
      
   which when compared with your obsolete MSG header's datetime stamp - 02 Dec   
   20  10:59:06 - is off by exactly one hour.  Definetly fixable with a proper   
   utc offset I would imagine.  Too bad there isn't one in Fidonet eh?  ;-)   
      
   Life is good,   
   Maurice   
      
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