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   Message 7,449 of 8,456   
   August Abolins to Wilfred van Velzen   
   Re: slightly different format   
   15 Nov 20 19:54:12   
   
   MSGID: 2:460/58 0000006c   
   REPLY: 2:460/58 0000006b   
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   RealName: August Abolins 2:221/1.58   
    WvV> Hi Maurice,   
    WvV>    
    WvV> On 2020-11-15 07:35:14, you wrote to me:   
    WvV>    
    WvV> WvV>> they also know their location and offset to UTC, so they can   
    WvV> WvV>> present the correct localtime.   
    WvV>    
    WvV> MK> When it presents the localtime exactly what information is it   
   providing?   
    WvV>    
    WvV> Asking the question is answering it: localtime.   
    WvV>    
    WvV> WvV>> FTS-4008 Is right by definition. It's the fidonet standard.   
    WvV>    
    WvV> MK> My country right or wrong?   
    WvV>    
    WvV> What does your country have to do with it?   
    WvV>    
    WvV> MK> FTS-4008 is a seriously flawed document.   
    WvV>    
    WvV> No it isn't. It just documents current practice, as it was in fidonet at   
   the time it was drafted.   
    WvV>    
    WvV> MK> It takes a legitimate concept (utc offset) and bastardizes it for no   
    WvV> MK> apparent reason.  It should get the heave-ho.  Something like the   
    WvV> MK> RFC-3339 flag would be a much better approach for compensating for   
   the   
    WvV> MK> current flaws in fidonet standards.   
    WvV>    
    WvV> It is how it is in fidonet. I would say almost impossible to change. So   
   you will just have to live with it.   
    WvV>    
    WvV> MK>>> has it made any difference there in any meaningful way?   
    WvV>    
    WvV> WvV>> Only if it's not 'TZUTC: 0000'. ;)   
    WvV>    
    WvV> MK> Within this msg is one that presents a legitimate utc offset (-0800)   
    WvV> MK> encased in a TZUTC flag.  Does it make a difference?   
    WvV>    
    WvV> Yes, now I know the real localtime when the message was written. I think   
   that's usefull information. It makes a difference when some one writes a   
   message in the middle of the night or during the day...   
    WvV>    
    WvV>    
    WvV> Bye, Wilfred.   
      
   It ultimately depends on where you KNOW someone resides. For instance, my   
   posts from Veleno are timestamped Italian time, but unless you know where I   
   actually live, you can't say.. "Aug wrote that at 3am! He needs help."   
      
      
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