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   mark lewis to Maurice Kinal   
   that trick never works   
   12 Apr 19 18:08:22   
   
   REPLY: 2:280/464.113 5cb0f9fd   
   MSGID: 1:3634/12.73 5cb10ddb   
   PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20180707   
   CHRS: CP437 2   
   TZUTC: -0400   
   TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 07-09-15   
      
    On 2019 Apr 12 20:50:04, you wrote to me:   
      
    ml>> on my box i had to specifically assign a modifier key to use so as to   
    ml>> be able to enter ""blended"" characters...   
      
    MK> By blended do you mean multibyte?   
      
   no because even the ones in CP437 that are greater than 127 have to be   
   ""blended""... by blended i mean that i have to hold the modifier button and   
   then hit the two keys, in proper order, to create the character...   
      
    MK> Anyhow I won't quote back your modifier keys as they show as C1   
    MK> control codes here.  I never use those but perhaps they will work in   
    MK> other editors, maybe even joe. That I don't know.   
      
   i dunno... C1?? AFAIK they're just CP437 characters greater than 127...   
      
    ml>> what i describe is what i had to do on a KDE GUI setup...   
      
    MK> Ah!  Yeah I read something about that somewhere.  No KDE here, or anything   
    MK> like it, so I cannot confirm nor deny.  All I know for sure that on the   
    MK> linux console those tricks won't work.  The left  plus the decimal   
    MK> number does on both the console and in vim, as well as the correct control   
    MK> codes, and I'd imagine the same might be true for codepages.   
      
   i was never able to create any of the CP437 characters greater than 127 until   
   i enabled the ""blended"" character modifier key and then learned a little bit   
   about how to do it properly...   
      
    MK> This being a native uft8 enviroment makes things much easier when that   
    MK> is the goal.   
      
   i don't know what condition this console is in... i tried a lot of things to   
   try to get CP437 working so i could telnet or ssh into a BBS system and be   
   able to properly display files with characters greater than 127 in them...   
   especially the "box drawing" characters which we use quite a lot when drawing   
   our ASCII/ANSI menus and other screens... CP437 spoiled a lot of us and it is   
   hard to get away from it...   
      
    MK> Also having iconv handy makes it extremely convenient to convert to 8   
    MK> bit codepages when needed.   
      
   that's all fine and good except when we're trying to create nice screens for   
   our BBSes...   
      
    MK> However I try and avoid that since I have yet to see a 8 bit codepage   
    MK> that has it all and I am greedy.  ;-)   
      
   if only we were all so lucky :)   
      
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