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   Hey mark!   
      
    ml> don't know where you got that from but it is not totally correct   
      
   From you in a prior messages, the latest being to Ozz stating, and I qoute;   
      
    ml> while this is true, fidonet uses the TZUTC control line to store   
    ml> the UTC offset so there is no confusion like you describe...   
    ml> numbers without a sign are positive and the only sign used is   
    ml> the '-' which easily indicates a negative...   
      
   The above is very similar to prior statements you have made about the TZUTC   
   control line.   
      
    ml> it will be a number at some point to be able to do the math   
    ml> needed...   
      
   An example usage would great.  Something like this that I would use for the   
   message I am replying to;   
      
     date --date="10 Mar 19  10:25:00 -0400" = Sun Mar 10 14:25:00 UTC 2019   
      
   However in that case it doesn't show the conversion to a number(s), which I   
   would assume to be unixseconds, which is indeed a number representing seconds.   
      
     date --date="10 Mar 19  10:25:00 -0400" +%s = 1552227900   
     date --date="@1552227900" = Sun Mar 10 14:25:00 UTC 2019   
      
   I could compilcate the above by writing a program to use strftime() but I   
   doubt it would be better than the above examples using coreutils' date.   
      
   Every available source I have seen never bothers to correct for utc offsets,   
   nevermind displaying the offset so that a reader can determine that the   
   displayed message originated in a different timezone.  If you know different   
   I'd appreciate hearing about it but from everything I have seen thus far the   
   TZUTC does absoultely nothing and is wrong given the lack of the + character   
   where applicable.   
      
   Life is good,   
   Maurice   
      
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