Hey mark!   
      
    ml> which uplink?   
      
   Check the nodelist.  It should be obvious.   
      
    ml> probably buggy BBS or mail tosser   
      
   Yes.  However the sysop in question chose the software although given the   
   situation there really isn't much of a choice.  Speaking for myself, I chose   
   to grow my own and as you can probably see it is compliant to fts-0001.016   
   unlike most of the current software deployed in Fidonet, or at least the more   
   popular obvious abandonware.  You can place me as more of a traditionalist   
   despite the fact what my choices would imply to the contrary.   
      
    ml> we cannot track it down and try to get it fixed   
      
   Heh, heh.  I've been suckered by statements like that in the past.  If you are   
   truly serious let us take up this conversation in FTSC_PUBLIC or NET_DEV where   
   it might make a difference, although I am highly skeptical it will ever make a   
   difference.  My choice would be FTSC_PUBLIC and my strategy would be to   
   continue pointing out the obvious flaws in fts-0001.016 and where it really   
   needs an overhaul.  Mind you I'll probably get censured there given my past   
   experience with that echo but I really don't mind taking a bullet for a   
   worthwhile cause.   
      
    ml> funny how traditional "DOS-think" shite seems to work the best   
      
   Actually the least buggy stuff is the most portable and appears to be mostly   
   linux deployed.  hpt comes to mind.  However it can be argued to be chock full   
   of DOS-think in spite of OS it is being deployed on.   
      
   I believe my bash scripting is more in line with UNIX-think as well as the old   
   fashioned Fidonet hobby bullshit I've heard in the past.  If I am not mistaken   
   the last time I heard, "It is only a hobby", was from you in the LINUX echo   
   way back when.  ;-)   
      
   Life is good,   
   Maurice   
      
   ... Don't cry for me I have vi.   
   --- GNU bash, version 4.4.19(1)-release (x86_64-silvermont-linux-gnu)   
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