Hello Maurice,   
      
   On Tue Sep 12 2017 22:13:14, Maurice Kinal wrote to Nicholas Boel:   
      
    NB>> Now I begin to wonder if you must _only_ have wide ncurses   
    NB>> installed in order for golded's make option for WIDE_NCURSES=1 to   
    NB>> actually work as expected.   
      
    MK> Interesting.  I may have to check that theory later although the   
    MK> previous build with the older ncurses was also WIDEC only with   
    MK> symlinks forcing the issue.   
      
   I was just posing a guess. No matter what I've done, running golded in a TTY   
   changed the line drawing borders to ascii characters, ie: upper left corner =   
   l, hyphen = q. They are definitely defined in ncurses.h, but even trying to   
   change those and recompile golded didn't work.   
      
   tmux and screen (I've since removed screen since tmux is lightyears better)   
   have both made things look much better at least. tmux even better now. It uses   
   the real up, down, left, and right arrows as well as some ansi block drawings   
   (ie: the scrollbar with it's solid block foreground and shaded block   
   background.   
      
   While it would be nice if I didn't need it at all, at least I finally found   
   something that makes it look a little nicer since I'm not moving to X any time   
   in the near future. ;)   
      
    NB>> No need, really. I get it via CVS.   
      
    MK> When was the last time they updated it?  20170303?  ;-)   
      
   Precisely. There's just so many sites with so many different archived bundles   
   (one guy even compiles random binaries and releases them in the filegate) out   
   there that I care more to get it from the one and only source.   
      
    NB>> Well of course! Why change it up now? ;)   
      
    MK> Especially after just under 20 years of doing fidonet this way.  Also   
    MK> I have been using vi since the late 1980's and have yet to find a   
    MK> better editor.  I got spoiled very early on.   
      
   I've also used vim and am currently using nano. I agree they're great editors.   
   However, I only use golded for the nicely formatted area list (since I carry   
   about 200 echos) and whatever the message reader can handle. Then when things   
   get tricky and some non-ascii stuff gets posted, I just reply to the message   
   so it shells out to vim or nano to read it in it's original glory.   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
   ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."   
   --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303   
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