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   ARTWARE      TimEd, NetMgr, WIMM Support Conference      350 messages   

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   mark lewis to Dallas Hinton   
   readmaps.dat and writmaps.dat   
   04 Jun 12 09:46:50   
   
   ml> i'm looking for updated readmaps.dat and writmaps.dat that use CP437   
   ml> instead of IBMPC... hopefully the format of these two files has not   
      
    DH> I'd be interested in this also -- I've had no luck getting TimEd to   
    DH> display russian characters!   
      
   i see you are running the original like i am... v1.10 with the y2k patch... i   
   dug around and found that the first thing i was unable to do was use CP437...   
   it wasn't recognized at all and there was no CHRS control line generated... i   
   finally located another program that uses the same dat files... MsgED...   
   pulled some from there that were specifically set for CP437, put them in place   
   and tried... no luck... using the READchangecharset option didn't show me any   
   available character sets other than IBMPC... i had to put the old dat files   
   back in place and then TimED would show all the character sets in them...   
      
    DH> Please let me know if you succeed!   
      
   sadly, i don't think it is going to happen with what we're using right now...   
   both TimED and MsgED were written to FSC-0054 which has now been superceeded   
   by FTS-5003... as such, both were hardcoded for IBMPC and other characterset   
   names which were not really proper then and are definitely not proper now...   
   these days everything is CPxxx which are also going by the wayside  as   
   everything moves more to UTF-8 or UTF-16... UTF-8 works for everything that   
   i'm aware of but there are problems at times in conversion to/from the old   
   CPxxx stuff... we can easily go one way but not the other... why? because   
   CPxxx fits within UTF-8 but UTF-8 has more characters than any of the CPxxx    
   sets...   
      
   while TimED's (and MsgED's) code has been released, not much has been done   
   with it... the original DOS and OS2 versions that we are running were written   
   and compiled with Watcom C... i'm not a C coder so there's very little that i   
   could do even if i wanted to...   
      
   as far as displaying russian characters goes, the way things are done   
   currently, the old school way, you'd have to switch your codepage to one that   
   contain those characters... right now you are most likely either CP437 or   
   CP850... type chcp at the command line to tell you... when you know the   
   codepage that has those characters, then you would use chcp to change by   
   entering its number (ie: chcp 850 will set CP850... go back to CP437 with chcp   
   437)... the problem is that when you change, you'll be totally immersed and if   
   the normal latin characters we're used to seeing are not where we are used to   
   finding them, then everything may be gibberish... blindly typing chcp 437   
   should get you back to something recognizable... unless you read russian or   
   whatever language the codepage you switched to uses ;)   
      
   the current choices with the available dat files are IBMPC, CANADIAN, DUTCH,   
   FINNISH, FRENCH, GERMAN, ISO-60, ITALIAN, NORWEG, PORTU, SPANISH, SWEDISH,   
   SWISS, UK, LATIN-1, and MAC... even the CP437 dat files i found only replace   
   IBMPC with CP437... everything else is still basically the same...   
      
   )\/(ark   
      
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