Hello Janis!   
      
   Tuesday December 02 2014 16:26, you wrote to me:   
      
    >> As an experiment, do you get identical results if you type   
      
    >> host www.fidonet.org   
    >> or   
    >> host www.fidonet.org.   
      
    JK> Some strange results (kind of):   
      
    JK> host fidonet.org   
    JK> fidonet.org mail is handled by 10 mail-sink.seeweb.it. fidonet.org mail is   
    JK> handled by 20 lb.smtp.seeweb.it.   
      
    JK>    
      
    JK> host www.fidonet.org   
    JK>  www.fidonet.org is an alias for fidonet.fidonet.org.   
    JK>  fidonet.fidonet.org has address 85.94.204.146   
    JK>  fidonet.fidonet.org has IPv6 address 2001:4b78:2000::1   
    JK>  fidonet.fidonet.org mail is handled by 0 0.   
      
    JK> <0 0 handles mail above?>   
      
    JK> host www.fidonet.org.   
    JK> www.fidonet.org is an alias for fidonet.fidonet.org. fidonet.fidonet.org   
    JK> has address 85.94.204.146 fidonet.fidonet.org has IPv6 address   
    JK> 2001:4b78:2000::1 fidonet.fidonet.org mail is handled by 0 0.   
      
    O.K. it is clear the now there is no automatic expansiom from org to org.net   
    I will not comment on the: mail is handled by 0 0   
    It may be a response to MX not being declared, that is o.k. if the host is   
    the mailserver for his own hostname.   
      
    JK> So, no I don't.. I would think www.fidonet.org and fidonet.org should   
    JK> return the same info... Someone messed up the Zone records over there   
    JK> maybe?   
      
    I will not endorse that, the one is a domain name the other most probably   
    a host name. There is a custom to do what you suggest.   
      
    I have been looking at some random hostnames in no-ip-org that I found in the   
    nodelist:   
      
   $ host oal-fido.no-ip.org.net   
   oal-fido.no-ip.org.net has address 23.21.224.150   
      
   $ host bbsplanb.no-ip.org   
   bbsplanb.no-ip.org has address 77.179.73.155   
      
   $ host bbsplanb.no-ip.org.net   
   bbsplanb.no-ip.org.net has address 23.21.224.150   
      
   $ host fidocl.no-ip.org   
   Host fidocl.no-ip.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)   
      
   $ host fidocl.no-ip.org.net   
   fidocl.no-ip.org.net has address 23.21.224.150   
      
   $ host no-ip.org.net   
   no-ip.org.net has address 23.21.224.150   
      
   $ host anyname.org.net   
   anyname.org.net has address 23.21.224.150   
      
   $ host org.net   
   org.net has address 23.21.224.150   
      
   So it is clear that someone who has org.net as domainname has only one   
   host and has setup a wildcard entry that always directs to that host.   
      
   The DNS services are hosted on the dns servers at digimedia.com   
   digimedia.com can be found in whois.   
      
   The same happens is try to resolve the 26 fidonet.net addresses still in the   
   nodelist.   
      
   So it all seems coincidence.   
      
   The only question that remains is where did the expansion from org. to org.net   
    come from.   
      
   It also happened in Oktober when I sent you a small list.   
   The expamsion of org to org.net also occurred there together with the response   
   of 23.21.244.150   
      
    Weird science.   
      
   Kees   
      
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