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   Message 127 of 613   
   mark lewis to Nicholas Boel   
   Password Errors   
   30 Aug 12 18:51:15   
   
   ml> if it is properly quoted, why does it keep adding new quote   
   ml> initials and >   
   ml> signs instead of just adding another '>' to the existing already   
   ml> quoted qu   
   ml> but this is something for the mystic echo...   
      
    NB> Why does most everyone's do the same?    
      
   do what? multiple quotes like this   
      
     ab>>>> ab wrote this 4 quotes back   
     ef>>> ef wrote this 3 quotes back   
     ij>> ij wrote this 2 quotes back   
     mn> mn wrote this 1 quote back    
      
   OR like this?   
      
     mn> ij> ef> ab> ab wrote this 4 quotes back   
     mn> ij> ef> ef wrote this 3 quotes back   
     mn> ij> ij wrote this 2 quotes back   
     mn> mn wrote this 1 quote back   
      
   OR like this?   
      
     mn>ij>ef>ab> ab wrote this 4 quotes back   
     mn>ij>ef> ef wrote this 3 quotes back   
     mn>ij> ij wrote this 2 quotes back   
     mn> mn wrote this 1 quote back   
      
   i'm not even going to try to manyally depict what mixing the quote methods   
   causes nor am i going to go into the (lack of) reflowing problem...   
      
   each of the above three use the same formatting rules... but if one doesn't   
   allow for the space between the quote prefixes, it may not recognize it as a   
   previous quoted quote and would then stuff its own quote prefix onto the   
   line... then you get things like what your quoter has been seen to do...   
      
   but the simple answer to your question is that they do the simple quoting and   
   quote chopping at the end of the line because their coder couldn't or didn't   
   or won't figure out how to do it properly... in other words, some might use   
   the term "lazy"... others, codes possibly, might say, "hey, at least they can   
   quote. if they want better, they can write it themselves or pay for better."   
      
    NB> And is this another "proposition?" Or is it an actual standard?   
      
   is what another proposition or standard?   
      
   ml> so you changed from synchronet? why? that is what you were   
   ml> recently runnin   
   ml> wasn't it?   
      
    NB> I'm still running Synchronet, but I'm posting messages from my   
    NB> Mystic point system,    
      
   ahhh...   
       
    NB> which is under a major 'overhaul from default' right now. :)    
      
   mmmkay :)   
      
   [trim]   
      
   ml> FWIW: i'm still waiting on rob swindell to explain why synchronet   
   ml> is gener   
   ml> MSGID lines for posts that do not contain such... he quite   
   ml> conviently left   
   ml> quit or just STFU when i posted the proof to him using one of his   
   ml> own mess   
   ml> with one of your's being the first i spotted doing such ;)   
      
    NB> I don't know. You'll have to take it up with him. Maybe he's just   
    NB> ignoring your anal retentivity? Everyone's software has flaws. Some   
    NB> more than others. Your software is broken too, Mark. He did point   
    NB> that out before he stopped posting.   
      
   yes, mine does have some problems... but i can't fix mine like he can in the   
   software that he maintains... the source code to all the various packages i   
   use has not been released and likely never will be... i know that in one case,   
   there was $10000US spent for the sources but i doubt that it has brought in   
   1/3rd of that since it was bought and updated...   
      
    NB> I do remember him saying there was an RC change in his region, so   
    NB> his uplink might have lost some messages, and by the time he got   
    NB> back, a few of his replies never made it to you, so he just gave up   
    NB> on the unwinnable battle.   
      
   he specifically posted some of the messages that didn't make it out   
   originally... but an RC change shouldn't frak things like that up... RC   
   addresses are just additional addresses and should not be used in the   
   processing of regular echomail and netmail... if a system is moving mail, they   
   can continue to do it without and breakage if they use their normal node   
   address... sadly, though, this conversation has come up more than once over   
   the years, too... sadly^2 some folk still don't listen to history and so they   
   end up with problems like you described when an RC was apparently hubbing mail   
   and had to switch things out when another person took over the RC slot...   
      
   )\/(ark   
      
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