In a message on Sunday 01-16-16 Richard Menedetter said to Tom Walker:   
      
   Hello Ricsi,   
      
   RM> I am for example talking about D-Star/DMR/Fusion.   
      
   RM> There you have 3 possibilitites:   
      
   RM> 1) talk on simplex HT <-> HT over radio waves (talk around on DMR)   
      
   So far that is OK, but I don't understand what (talk around on DMR) is.   
      
   RM> 2) HT <-> repeater <-> HT over radio waves   
      
   That is also ham radio.   
      
   RM> 3) HT <-> repeater 1 <-> IP <-> repeater 2 <-> HT all over radio   
   RM> except the IP link between the 2 repeaters. Those two repeaters can   
   RM> be seperated by thousands of kilometers or whatever non-SI units you   
   RM> like.   
      
   This is where our opinions differ. As soon as you involve an IP link,   
   or any other transport other than radio waves, it ceases to be ham radio   
      
   D-Star, DMR and Fusion are communication methods between two parties,   
   that don't use radio waves for the entire link.   
      
   Read also in QST 12/2015 p62 about the future of digital communications.   
      
   RM> From MY point of view having the possibility of using option 3 does   
   RM> NOT disqualify those technologies as being HAM!   
      
   Neither D-Star, DMR and Fusion qualify as ham radio as soon as they use   
   an intermediate transport medium, other than radio waves!   
      
      
   73 de Sam, OH0NC   
      
   aka Holger   
      
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