Hi Sam!   
      
   There's also a third like and dis like to this, grin!   
      
      
    HG> The attraction of ham radio is that there are so meny different ways to   
    HG> enjoy the hobby. Some like constructing, some chatting in phone or CW,   
    HG> some enjoy contests, some chasing new countries, some fox hunting and   
    HG> what have you. There's something for everyone.   
      
    HG> 73 de Sam, OH0NC   
      
    HG> aka Holger   
      
   Back in 1955 or so when I had my Extra Class and was a high school kid here at   
   A&M Consolodated High School in College Station, Texas I was also more or less   
   a member of the Texas Aggie W5AC ham club that was in the original Memorial   
   Student Center there on the campus.  They had a Fox Hunter Project and more or   
   less bet me that they could find me if I was the Fox no matter what.  Hmmm.  I   
   had already built the first color weather radar and more here at Texas A&M's   
   Oceanography and Meteorology Department under the mentorship of Dr. George   
   Huebner W5GDK,  I 'bet' *NO*.   
      
   Well on Fox Hunter day, they lost the 'bet'!   
      
   I had access to the Lloyd family farm out near Wellborn, Texas that was   
   adjacent to the then IGN railroad line between College Station, Texas and   
   Navasota, Texas going toward Houston.  I took my transmitter out over the   
   Lloyd ranch to the IGN railroad and spike climbed up the telephone pole to the   
   telegraph line adjacent to the railway,  I attached a neat little small wire   
   to it capacitor coupled and fired up the Fox.  There were lots of roads   
   adjacent to the rail line here and there including solid back near the College   
   Station town about six miles from where I coupled to the telegraph line.  They   
   tried all day long over and over again to find the Fox!  But *NEVER* could   
   find it!  Amazing what a neat antenna can do here and there!  And what even a   
   simple mobile transmitter can do in a moving car that can totally smash all   
   wi-fi data operations for just a few bucks that make the cloud a nasty bet you   
   can use it for hiding anything that people can't see today!  But they don't   
   want to talk about for some reason, sigh.   
      
   Furious at FidoDog Mikey they were not happy to see me at club meetings after   
   that, chuckle.  Oh well.  Payback, grin!  They were at that time using a BC610   
   high power transmitter at the club station in the Memorial Student Center.  It   
   HORRIBLY created TVI on the Channel 2 TV station signal from Houston, Texas,   
   here about 90 miles away.  And they had been blaming *ME* publically for   
   causing THEIR TVI that the neighborhood was FURIOUS about on CW, chortle!     
   Which I *DID NOT DO* at all!  Even the nearby resident TV sets were clean with   
   me!  I knew TV pretty well at that time as even the kid in high school here   
   that put in the first color television sets in all of Bryan and College   
   Station at 15 years of age working for a TV and Hi-FI shop to help pay for my   
   food and gas for my Model "A" Ford car with even then a mobile unit in it.    
   Generator powered even back then in that car.   
      
   So there there is yet a kind of a third pattern to what you describe in your   
   Fido message!  As I was even mixed with the creation of Fido back then at 300   
   and 1000 baud modems!   
      
      
   Mike (MikeyDog) Luther as N117C at 1:117/100 and W5WQN   
      
      
      
      
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