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   Message 651 of 2,531   
   Roy Witt to Ed Vance   
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   23 Jun 14 12:27:57   
   
   Greetings Ed!   
      
    RW>> In 1977 I opted for the ARRL 'antenna handbook' rather than pay   
    RW>> for a bunch of things not required at the time.   
      
    EV> I bought the Editors and Engineers "Radio Handbook" two times.   
    EV> 16th Edition and 20 Edition.   
      
    EV> Someone else had a copy and showed it to me and I thought I'd like   
    EV> to have one also. Then I got the second one some years later.   
      
    EV> In Oakland, California I visited a Ham I met on the air and he had   
    EV> another hard cover Radio Book that I looked through and liked, but I   
    EV> never remembered its Title where I could get one for myself.   
      
   Hmmmm. The only hard cover AR book that I have is a ARRL published 'Yagi   
   Antenna Design' by Dr James Lawson, W2PV, c1986. Dunno why it is in my   
   library, as it was seldom used because of computer software that did what   
   I probably bought the book for.   
      
    EV>> I'd guess the Company A.R.R.L chose to Print (and Bind) the   
    EV>> 1960 Edition issue of the Handbook had used a 'less expensive'   
    EV>> method of putting the sections of that Edition together.   
      
    RW>> That may be so. Have you looked in those books for the printers   
    RW>> names? You might also note that there is a difference in the   
    RW>> books; one being a paper binding and the other being a cloth   
    RW>> binding. i.e my 1977 ARRL hand book is paper bound and the   
    RW>> suggested retail inside the cover says that it was sold at   
    RW>> $7.50, whiie the cloth bound edition cost $12.50...I would   
    RW>> expect that the cloth bound books would last a lot longer.   
      
    EV> Rumford Press printed the 1957 and 1960 A.R.R.L RAHB I have.   
    EV> The RAHB's I've got since 1964 don't show who published it for them.   
      
   The above mentioned book was publication #72 in the AR's library. You can   
   probably find it on their website.   
      
    EV> I always bought the soft cover handbooks, remember I "AM A CHEAP   
    EV> LID".   
      
   You and me both. Seldom used books last a very long time.   
      
    EV>> The later Handbooks I have bought since 1964 all have been bound   
    EV>> much better than that 1960 copy I got when I was in Norfolk,   
    EV>> Virginia at Navy Radiomans School and was wanting to learn enough so   
    EV>> I could get Commercial RadioTelephone and RadioTelegraph Licenses   
    EV>> from the F.C.C. office in downtown Norfolk.   
      
    RW>> I think that (license) is the only reason I'd join the Navy   
    RW>> back then. I've wanted to get one of those for years, but never   
    RW>> had the time to take a course that would get me there.   
      
    EV> The Navy didn't have anything to do with my wanting to have those   
    EV> licenses, I did it because there was a F.C.C. Office in Norfolk, VA   
    EV> and wondered if I knew enuf to get one of those thar things for   
    EV> myself. -snip-   
      
   My Elmer, K6XT held one of those licenses and he was a radio technicion in   
   the Navy. Art, at the time, resided in the BOQ of the Naval Training   
   Center in San Diego when I met him.   
      
    EV>> I never used the CW License, but I once was a Radio Dispatcher for   
    EV>> the local government 'City Radio' station and showed my Third Class   
    EV>> RadioTelephone License to the boss when he asked me to fill out a   
    EV>> Form to get a Restricted RadioTelephone Permit, to show him I didn't   
    EV>> need a 'Permit' because the 'License' I already owned gave me all   
    EV>> the permission needed to be a Radio Dispatcher for the City.   
      
    RW>> You were right to do so. When/if the FCC were to inspect your   
    RW>> station, they wern't going to be looking for a city permit...   
      
    EV> The City doesn't issue Restricted RadioTelephone Permits, the FCC   
    EV> does.   
      
   I know. And note the word, if...the FCC will pay you a visit if they think   
   it has reason to do so. Monty Sisco, WB6UKD had that same license, had a   
   repair shop where he refurbished older Motorola business radio and   
   serviced customers who rented space on his BR repeaters on Mt San Miguel.   
      
   He did this out of his garage at home and got a FCC visit and was asked   
   to open the repeater building on the mountain for inspection. Dunno why.   
      
    EV> As far as them inspecting the Station, the City had a contract with a   
    EV> 2-Way Radio service company for Maintenance and Service of the Base   
    EV> and Mobile units. If there were any problems with the station, we   
    EV> would call the Company who had the maintenance contract any time Day   
    EV> or Night, and they would send a Licensed Technician to fix things.   
    EV> -snip-   
      
   So you really didn't need to have that license to work there? The HAM echo   
   co-mod has that same license and works in a Rhode Island radio or TV   
   station. License required in his case.   
      
    EV>> I did ask him a few months later to sign (Endorse) my License so I   
    EV>> could get the F.C.C. to renew it for another Term.   
      
    RW>> Did he?   
      
    EV> Yep!, He sure did, and I did re-new those licenses when it came time   
    EV> to re-new them, but I forgot to do so when those licenses were due to   
    EV> expire.   
      
   Shame, shame...   
      
      
       Have a day!   
      
            R\%/itt - K5RXT   
      
   --- GoldED+/W32 1.1.5-31012   
   --- D'Bridge 3.99   
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