Greetings TOM!   
      
      
    RW> RW>>> You're using a VHF antenna to receive UHF digital stations 8 &   
    RW> RW>>> 10? That's odd.   
      
    RW> TW>> NO as I stated I am using a High Band VHF TV antanna. Low Band   
    RW> TW>> covers channel 2 thru 6 and High covers Channel 7 thru 13   
      
    RW>> No wonder you're not getting all of the HD channels. You need a UHF   
    RW>> antenna for those. Channel 8 and 10 are still on VHF, but the rest   
    RW>> of the stations in SD are on UHF frequencies. i.e. Channel 6 (calls   
    RW>> itself 6.1 now) is now broadcasting on UHF channel 23, etc..   
      
    TW> you are not paying any attnetion to what I am saying.   
      
   I'll admit that it is hard to keep up with your situation. I can't   
   remember every little word that has passed between us.   
      
    TW> As you Know the UHF stations are in a totally different direction   
    TW> then the VHF channels   
      
   Perhaps you didn't know that Ch-10 owns property on top of Mt San Miguel   
   ... they could have moved there since I left SD or not. Channel 39 and 51   
   are located on that mountain. I forget where Ch-15 is located, but if   
   they're not located on Miguel, they may still be on Mt Soladad...   
      
    TW> Because of this I CHoOSE to use a VHF Hi Anttenna pointed   
    TW> toward the Ch 8 & 10 transmitter tower location.   
      
   Which is where?   
      
    TW> For the UHF antenna, as STATED above, I tried two different gigh gain   
    TW> UHF ONLY antennas and the signals were still was to weak to be   
    TW> Watchable!!!!!!!!   
      
   This isn't a shouting match, it's a conversation. You only need one ! to   
   make your point. I'm not deaf! i.e. all CAPS and over-use of punctuation   
   is not online ethical. But you already know that.   
      
   We use all caps to indicate an acronym such as UHF, ZIP, TV, LPA, etc..   
      
   For help in receiving the UHF channels in your area, here is a link to a   
   sight that will use your ZIP, physical address and antenna height above   
   ground to give you the direction and suggest an antenna that will give you   
   reception. They also provide you with each channel within range and   
   direction to point your Yagi or LPA TV antenna.   
      
   http://www.antennaweb.org/default.aspx   
      
   I entered a guess of your ZIP as 92040 and an address on Lakeside Blvd.   
   Here's a list of channels you should be able to get, if located at this   
   location. I know that you live at a higher elevation than Lakeside Blvd,   
   but I couldn't remember the street, so this is what you can get from the   
   lower elevation of the city on Lakeside Blvd.   
      
   Stations                Antenna   
      
   KNSD-DT 39.1 NBC   
   RF Channel: 40   
   12 miles at 182ø        Yellow   
      
   KPBS-DT 15.1 PBS   
   RF Channel: 30   
   12 miles at 182ø        Yellow   
      
   KSWB-DT 69.1 FOX   
   RF Channel: 19   
   12 miles at 183ø        Yellow   
      
   KUSI-DT 51.1 IND   
   RF Channel: 18   
   12 miles at 182ø        Yellow   
      
   KSDX-LP 29 IND   
   RF Channel: 29   
   12 miles at 182ø        Light Green   
      
   KSDX-LD 9.1 IND   
   RF Channel: 9   
   12 miles at 182ø        Red   
      
   XEWT 12 TVA   
   RF Channel: 12   
   26 miles at 195ø        Blue   
      
   XEWT-DT 12.1 TVA   
   RF Channel: 12   
   26 miles at 195ø        Violet   
      
   "Up to 12 channels from 8 over-the-air stations may be received at this   
   location."   
      
      
       Have a day!   
      
            R\%/itt - K5RXT   
      
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