Greetings Ed!   
      
    RW>>> This kind of antenna experimenting is what brought me to   
    RW>>> Amateur Radio in 1970...now that I could work VHF and UHF, the   
    RW>>> antennas I built were much easier to handle...   
      
    EV>> Another antenna I had 'thought' about almost 50 years ago, but never   
    EV>> made was the 6 Meter Corner Reflector mounted horizontally.   
    EV>> I thought it looked real neat, but even if I used Hardware Cloth for   
    EV>> the reflector element it would probably get Blown Down in a Storm as   
    EV>> big as that thing would be if I made it for 50.7 Mc/s.   
      
    RW>> You don't have to use hardware cloth to accomplish that. My   
    RW>> corner reflector yagi for HDTV is made of tubing. At 6mtrs, it   
    RW>> would be half the size of one for 10/11mtrs.   
      
    EV> You're right, I have seen photos of corner reflector antennas built   
    EV> using Rods for the reflector.   
      
   8^) I have one on my rooftop tower. My bowtie antenna also uses rods to   
   make up the reflector.   
      
    EV> If I ever wanted to use 6 Meters AM again, I have that 5 element,   
    EV> Beta Matched Beam still in the box, so I wouldn't need to build a   
    EV> Corner Reflector for 6.   
      
   But you could, if you had an inclination to do so.   
      
    EV> I don't use the Heathkit Sixer anymore because of learning my   
    EV> neighbor's TV Set was receiving the Audio and I don't want to cause   
    EV> them any inconveience(sp?) when they are watching a show on their   
    EV> set. When I watch TV (whenever) I wouldn't want any outside   
    EV> interference overriding the Video or Audio.   
      
   Ummm. If he's using an HDTV these days, your sixer wouldn't interfere with   
   his TV. There's a big difference between an analog signal and a digital   
   signal. Most likely, your sixer's signals mixed with his old tv's   
   frequency multipliers or mixers.   
      
    EV> I know that neighbor wouldn't write the FCC about MY 6 Meter Signal   
    EV> being received on his TV Set, but another neighbor may not be so kind   
    EV> and understanding and I get a Pink Slip from the Friendly Country   
    EV> Cousin that limited my 6 Meter operating hours.   .... ..   
      
   When I was a youngster in the 50s, we had a ham that lived two houses up   
   and across the street from us. His xmitter interfered with our TV   
   reception and my parents complained to him about it. He didn't xmit during   
   primetime TV and everybody was happy. I don't think my dad knew that if he   
   complained to the FCC, they'd put a stop to his interfering, but I know my   
   dad never complained to the FCC.   
      
    EV>> I saw a HF Discone Antenna was used on all four of the AirCraft   
    EV>> Carriers I served on while I was in the U.S. Navy, and also being   
    EV>> told it was a BROADBAND Antenna that was used to Transmit on a range   
    EV>> of frequencies from (IIRC) 4-30 Mc/s (using an Antenna   
    EV>> Coupler/Tuner) really made me drool over wanting one of those   
    EV>> MONSTER Vertical polarized antennas.   
      
    RW>> Which reminds me of connecting the coaxial output of a CB radio   
    RW>> to the tower of an abandoned radio station tower.   
      
    EV> When I used my cars AM Radio Antenna with my Sixer, once I was some   
    EV> distance away from another Ham's station that I usually talked with.   
    EV> So I drove down the road from where I was to a Volunteer Fire   
    EV> Department building that had a Rohm Tower along side the building for   
    EV> their VHF Station, and by moving my car backwards and forwards I   
    EV> could find a spot where my friends signal increased, and it worked   
    EV> the other way too, he could hear my Five Watter also.   
      
   That was a pretty smart thing to do...we made the mistake of using 'jumper   
   cables' to attach the 108" SS whip antenna to the tower. It worked, but we   
   never thought about using the tower to 'point' the signal...   
      
    EV>> I 'Think' I recall that several Transmitters on different   
    EV>> frequencies could be connected to the Discone (through Antenna   
    EV>> Tuners) and used at the same time.   
      
    RW>> That's how a repeater works. It uses tuned cavities to allow   
    RW>> the xmitter to use the same antenna as the receiver w/out   
    RW>> interferring with each other.   
      
    EV> The Navy Air Craft Carrier I was on used the Discone just for HF   
    EV> Transmitting, and they used seperate Vertical Antennas for Receiving   
    EV> HF.   
      
   I'll bet that they still needed tuned cavities to use those antennas,   
   unless they shut down the receivers during xmit.   
      
    EV> -snip-   
      
    RW>>> And you guys thought CB'ers were nothing but skip talking   
    RW>>> truckers and hillbillies...   
      
    EV> I have met some CB'ers who didn't fit the Mode that the Movies and TV   
    EV> Shows.   
      
   I have too.   
      
    EV> And then there was a person who had both a Citizens Band Call for   
    EV> his self and a 27 MC/S Business Band Call for his business, who would   
    EV> sometimes use the Business Band RF Amp when he talked on the Citizens   
    EV> Band Frequencies (Channels).   
      
   I don't recall there being a business band on 27MHz...   
      
    EV> Also I remember one day a pleasure boat came through the Lock where I   
    EV> work, and I thought what I saw on the Dashboard in his boat was a HF   
    EV> Marine Band Radio, and the boat owner told me it was a CB Amplifier.   
      
   8^)   
      
    EV> I mentioned to him something about "that's illegal to use isn't it?",   
    EV> and he said he had to use it because his using CB on the River cut   
    EV> the signal level down. I didn't let him know that I KNEW RF travels   
    EV> better over Water than it does over Land. The next day that boat came   
    EV> back upriver through the Lock on my shift, and I didn't see any trace   
    EV> of a Radio or Amplifier in his Pilot House.   
      
    EV> I guess I put the fear in him.   
      
   I think so. 8^)   
      
    EV> -snip-   
      
    EV>> I waited to reply to your last comment until I thought what to write   
    EV>> Anyone else transmitting on a frequency not authorized by the FCC,   
    EV>> AND/OR Transmitting with a Power Level above 5 Watts is a   
    EV>> BOOTLEGGER!   
      
    RW>> An unlicensed radio operator.   
      
    EV> Every Ham I knew back when I got my Novice license called them   
    EV> BOOTLEGGERS!, that's why I used that term, maybe 6 Land and 5 Land   
    EV> Hams have different feeling about that than 4 Land and 9 Land Hams.   
      
   Well, in those days most hams thought that the FCC screwed them by giving   
   their 11mtr band away for a citizen's radio service. Thus the name,   
   bootlegger...   
      
    RW>>> Anybody interested in building UHF stacked Quagi's, let me   
    RW>>> know..   
      
    EV>> That sounds like stacked Quads, is that what a Quagi is?   
      
    RW>> No. A Quagi is a yagi with quad-loop driven and reflector   
    RW>> elements.   
      
    EV> Thanks, I know what a 2 element Quad is, I never heard the term Quagi   
    EV> since I don't keep up to date with what's going on in Ham Radio,   
    EV> except for what I read on the BBS Networks my SYSOP subscribes to   
    EV> that have Ham Echoes.   
      
   That antenna came up as a project in 73 Magazine c1970s. I built a pair of   
   them using 1/2" PVC booms, #12 house wire for the yagi elements and the   
   same type of wire for the loops. I pushed them up to a height of 40 feet   
   or so and worked the repeaters behind a ridge that blocked an antenna's   
   line-of-sight to the mountain-top where a UHF ham repeater was located.   
      
    EV> I think I've only seen one Amateur Radio 20 Meter two element Quad   
    EV> Antenna and it was made with Bamboo Poles.   
      
   That was probably the best material to use. I tried to make one out of PVC   
   pipe for 10Mtrs, but the plastic just wasn' up to the task, bending any   
   which way it could.   
      
    RW>> PS - I'm the E-listed moderator of this echo and anything   
    RW>> 'radio' is on topic in any of my echoes.   
      
    EV> Thanks, I 'thought' that You might be the Moderator of this echo.   
      
   I don't advertise it for good reason. I'd rather talk radio than kick   
   someone in the pants for not following the rules.   
      
    EV> I just had the notion Amateur (or Ham) echoes didn't cater to that   
    EV> CB Stuff on a regular basis.   
      
   My attitude is that if it relates to radio, then it is on-topic.   
      
   My reasoning for that comes from an experience I had with the former   
   moderator of HAM, which I also moderate now. If CB came up in a   
   conversation, he'd jump on your case for mentioning it and give you a   
   warning; one more time and you're out of here. I fought him head to head   
   until he banned me from the HAM echo and I retaliated by creating another   
   HAM echo. That fight boiled over into other echoes that we both   
   frequented. Long story short: his girlfriend (whom he had been beating)   
   gave me the password to the echolisting and I used that to take the echo   
   away from him. He exited Fidonet soon thereafter.   
      
    EV> Sorry I was wrong, I'll watch what I type in This echo, if I can   
    EV> remember not to say any discouraging words about NON-CB Operators   
    EV> who use their TOYS for their own enjoyment, until they get caught.   
      
   Say what you want...we've been off-topic just in discussing TV antennas   
   and I won't object to that because it also includes topical things related   
   to radio. And it keeps the echo alive, which is also very important.   
      
    EV> CB Operators abide by the Rules as Amateur Radio Operators abide by   
    EV> the Rules, ANYONE who doesn't abide by the Rules is a BOOTLEGGER!!!!   
    EV> !!   
      
   8^)   
      
       Have a day!   
      
            R\%/itt - K5RXT   
      
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