04-30-14 16:42 Roy Witt wrote to Ed Vance about Resurrected   
      
    RW> @MSGID: <5362C639.360.amtradio@capcity2.synchro.net>   
    RW> Greetings Ed!   
      
   Howdy! Roy,   
    RW>> This kind of antenna experimenting is what brought me to   
    RW>> Amateur Radio in 1970...now that I could work VHF and UHF, the   
    RW>> antennas I built were much easier to handle...   
      
    EV> Another antenna I had 'thought' about almost 50 years ago, but never   
    EV> made was the 6 Meter Corner Reflector mounted horizontally.   
    EV> I thought it looked real neat, but even if I used Hardware Cloth for   
    EV> the reflector element it would probably get Blown Down in a Storm as   
    EV> big as that thing would be if I made it for 50.7 Mc/s.   
      
    RW> You don't have to use hardware cloth to accomplish that. My   
    RW> corner reflector yagi for HDTV is made of tubing. At 6mtrs, it   
    RW> would be half the size of one for 10/11mtrs.   
      
   You're right, I have seen photos of corner reflector antennas built   
   using Rods for the reflector.   
      
   If I ever wanted to use 6 Meters AM again, I have that 5 element,   
   Beta Matched Beam still in the box, so I wouldn't need to build a   
   Corner Reflector for 6.   
      
   I don't use the Heathkit Sixer anymore because of learning my   
   neighbor's TV Set was receiving the Audio and I don't want to cause   
   them any inconveience(sp?) when they are watching a show on their set.   
   When I watch TV (whenever) I wouldn't want any outside interference   
   overriding the Video or Audio.   
      
   I know that neighbor wouldn't write the FCC about MY 6 Meter Signal   
   being received on his TV Set, but another neighbor may not be so kind   
   and understanding and I get a Pink Slip from the Friendly Country   
   Cousin that limited my 6 Meter operating hours.   .... ..   
      
    EV> I saw a HF Discone Antenna was used on all four of the AirCraft   
    EV> Carriers I served on while I was in the U.S. Navy, and also being   
    EV> told it was a BROADBAND Antenna that was used to Transmit on a range   
    EV> of frequencies from (IIRC) 4-30 Mc/s (using an Antenna Coupler/Tuner)   
    EV> really made me drool over wanting one of those MONSTER Vertical   
    EV> polarized antennas.   
      
    RW> Which reminds me of connecting the coaxial output of a CB radio   
    RW> to the tower of an abandoned radio station tower.   
      
   When I used my cars AM Radio Antenna with my Sixer, once I was some   
   distance away from another Ham's station that I usually talked with.   
   So I drove down the road from where I was to a Volunteer Fire   
   Department building that had a Rohm Tower along side the building for   
   their VHF Station, and by moving my car backwards and forwards I could   
   find a spot where my friends signal increased, and it worked the other   
   way too, he could hear my Five Watter also.   
      
    EV> I 'Think' I recall that several Transmitters on different frequencies   
    EV> could be connected to the Discone (through Antenna Tuners) and used   
    EV> at the same time.   
      
    RW> That's how a repeater works. It uses tuned cavities to allow   
    RW> the xmitter to use the same antenna as the receiver w/out   
    RW> interferring with each other.   
      
   The Navy Air Craft Carrier I was on used the Discone just for HF   
   Transmitting, and they used seperate Vertical Antennas for Receiving   
   HF.   
   -snip-   
    RW>> And you guys thought CB'ers were nothing but skip talking   
    RW>> truckers and hillbillies...   
      
   I have met some CB'ers who didn't fit the Mode that the Movies and TV   
   Shows.   
      
   And then there was a person who had both a Citizens Band Call for   
   his self and a 27 MC/S Business Band Call for his business, who would   
   sometimes use the Business Band RF Amp when he talked on the Citizens   
   Band Frequencies (Channels).   
      
   Also I remember one day a pleasure boat came through the Lock where I   
   work, and I thought what I saw on the Dashboard in his boat was a HF   
   Marine Band Radio, and the boat owner told me it was a CB Amplifier.   
      
   I mentioned to him something about "that's illegal to use isn't it?",   
   and he said he had to use it because his using CB on the River cut the   
   signal level down.   
   I didn't let him know that I KNEW RF travels better over Water than it   
   does over Land.   
   The next day that boat came back upriver through the Lock on my shift,   
   and I didn't see any trace of a Radio or Amplifier in his Pilot House.   
      
   I guess I put the fear in him.   
   -snip-   
    EV> I waited to reply to your last comment until I thought what to write   
    EV> Anyone else transmitting on a frequency not authorized by the FCC,   
    EV> AND/OR Transmitting with a Power Level above 5 Watts is a BOOTLEGGER!   
      
    RW> An unlicensed radio operator.   
      
   Every Ham I knew back when I got my Novice license called them   
   BOOTLEGGERS!, that's why I used that term, maybe 6 Land and 5 Land   
   Hams have different feeling about that than 4 Land and 9 Land Hams.   
      
    RW>> Anybody interested in building UHF stacked Quagi's, let me   
    RW>> know..   
      
    EV> That sounds like stacked Quads, is that what a Quagi is?   
      
    RW> No. A Quagi is a yagi with quad-loop driven and reflector   
    RW> elements.   
      
   Thanks, I know what a 2 element Quad is, I never heard the term Quagi   
   since I don't keep up to date with what's going on in Ham Radio, except   
   for what I read on the BBS Networks my SYSOP subscribes to that have   
   Ham Echoes.   
      
   I think I've only seen one Amateur Radio 20 Meter two element Quad   
   Antenna and it was made with Bamboo Poles.   
      
    RW> PS - I'm the E-listed moderator of this echo and anything   
    RW> 'radio' is on topic in any of my echoes.   
      
   Thanks, I 'thought' that You might be the Moderator of this echo.   
      
   I just had the notion Amateur (or Ham) echoes didn't cater to that   
   CB Stuff on a regular basis.   
      
   Sorry I was wrong, I'll watch what I type in This echo, if I can   
   remember not to say any discouraging words about NON-CB Operators   
   who use their TOYS for their own enjoyment, until they get caught.   
      
   CB Operators abide by the Rules as Amateur Radio Operators abide by   
   the Rules, ANYONE who doesn't abide by the Rules is a BOOTLEGGER!!!! !!   
      
   ... Fired from orange juice factory - couldn't concentrate! !   
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