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|    Daryl Stout to ED VANCE    |
|    ARRL Requests Expanded HF    |
|    06 Mar 18 11:04:00    |
      Ed,              EV>Is the General and Technician Written Test the same?               Not any more. However, before March 21, 1987, the Technician and       General written exam WERE IDENTICAL -- the only difference was a 5 wpm       CW exam for the Technician (which you already had, if you had a Novice       License beforehand), and a 13 wpm CW exam for the General.               I've had these experiences at exam sessions (I've been a VE going on       11 years now):              1) If an examinee walks in to the session with a Technician ham radio       license that was issued on March 20, 1987 or before, all they have to do       is show ID, pay the fee, fill out the paperwork, and they get a CSCE for       a General Class license WITHOUT having to take an exam first; basically,       it's "grandfathered". This is the ONLY exam that you can get an upgrade       for, without testing.               The caveat is that the license has to be CURRENT -- if it has lapsed       (it's expired more than 2 years (item 2 below), they go to category 2B       below.              2) If an examinee walks in to the session with a lapsed (expired more       than 2 years) license, the term of the license class determines what       "prior credit" they have.              A) If it was a Novice or Technician Class license, they have NOTHING --       as if they had never taken an exam (no license or callsign -- which is       the case for anyone whose license has lapsed). They show their ID, pay       the fee, fill out the paperwork, and have to take and pass the       Technician Exam to be back into the hobby. They are issued a CSCE for a       Technician Class license.              B) If it was a General Class license, or a lapsed Technician Class       license that was issued on March 20, 1987 or before...they have credit       for Element 3, the General Exam (proof of such is required). However,       without the lower level (Element 2 Technician), they have NOTHING. So,       they have to show their ID, pay the fee, fill out the paperwork, then       take and pass the Technician exam. They are then issued a CSCE for a       General Class license.              C) If it was an Advanced Class license, the credit is the same as item       2B above (proof of such is required). However, since the Advanced Class       license was discontinued in April, 2000 (as was the Novice Class       license), they are DOWNGRADED to General, and are basically the same as       item 2B above.              D) If it was an Amateur Extra Class license, they have credit for       Element 3, the General exam...and Element 4, the Amateur Extra exam       (proof of such is required). However, without Element 2, the Technician       exam, they have NOTHING. So, they have to show their ID, pay the fee,       fill out the paperwork, then take and pass the Techician exam. They       are then issued a CSCE for an Amateur Extra Class license.               With items 2A through 2D above, they will get a new license and       callsign about 2 weeks after the exam. If they don't see their license       in the FCC ULS after 2 weeks, then they need to call the VEC, or the VE       Team Leader, and find out what the delay is.               If their former callsign is still available under the vanity callsign       system, they can apply for it, but they have to wait at least 21 days       before it's granted.              Daryl, WX1DER, ARRL/VEC Amateur Extra Class VE              ===        þ OLX 1.53 þ A nudist wedding makes it easy to identify the best man.       --- SBBSecho 3.03-Win32        * Origin: FIDONet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org (1:19/33)    |
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