Yep Marc!   
      
    ml> 18 Sep 16 15:58, you wrote to Tony Langdon:   
      
    TL>> Here, the police are strict on road rules. Even    
    TL>> if one is on the way   
    TL>> to the station to handle a call, all road rules    
    TL>> must be obeyed. It's   
    TL>> only when we've got in one of the fire truchs or    
    TL>> support car that we   
    TL>> can put lights and sirens on and judiciously break some laws "if it   
    TL>> is safe and reasonable to do so". Even then,    
    TL>> both standing orders and   
    TL>> road law itself still set strong limits.   
      
    JD> Much the same here.  The only vehicles that can    
    JD> legally go thru a stop   
    JD> sign, or Red light, is a funeral procession.  Then again, that is   
    JD> usually accompanied by at least a police cruiser in front.   
      
    ml> check your laws closely... there may be a ""loop hole"" in that as long    
    ml> as you stop at a red light, does the law say that you    
    ml> *must* sit there until it turns red... most/all    
    ml> jurisdictions i've been in do not state that you    
    ml> *must* wait in the green... only that you must stop...    
    ml> i've beaten "red light tickets" with that argument    
    ml> several times in the past ;) ;) ;)   
      
    ml> on the flashing lights... i'm fixing to get a light    
    ml> bar fitted that gives me yellow and white flashing and    
    ml> alternating... can also get green in addition or as    
    ml> one or the other... this because of being on    
    ml> construction sites with heavy equipment running    
    ml> around... we already wear white hats and neon yellow    
    ml> safety vests ;)   
      
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   Well, dating back to when I first got my Extra Class ham license in late 1972   
   here and moved from WN5WQN to W5WQN which I still have today, I am very   
   familiar with much of the CB vs. 'pig meat ham' radio all this has been   
   talking about, grin!  I also legally worked CB back then and my CB cute name   
   was "Empty Hole" here in the Texas A&M University College Station and Bryan,   
   Texas area where I'm still today.  The Empty Hole cute name came from the fact   
   that I had a small gas tank in the little truck I was driving and it got   
   really low gas mileage too.  Which meant a lot of the time I was low on   
   gasoline running all over Texas and more!   
      
   Move on to the issue about running red lights and so on.  For what I was   
   totally doing to carry all the world up even in the MARS top secret work I was   
   doing back then that I had no idea of what it really was all about,I even had   
   a top secret military clearance for the original monitoring of the Angels Do   
   Not Play On This HAARP project originally as well as lots more of stuff around   
   the world here.  Plus even then was fixing all the local police, law   
   enforcement and state highway radios as well as the airplane stuff out at   
   Easterwood Airport here.  Even when the DC power supplies were just motor   
   generators in the trunks of the cars!  So I learned a lot about 'red lights'.    
   I can't say this was and has moved to the current law about this here in   
   Texas.  However, if you actually have a medical emergency, are serving as a   
   volunteer in fire help, or things like that, what I have never actually used   
   in all these years, but I sort of think the cops will help with today locally   
   is this.   
      
   If you desparately have to go through a red light here, turn on your as now   
   standard BLINKING BOTH RED AND FRONT LITTLE LIGHTS on your steering column and   
   CAREFULLY go through the red light.  If a cop whops you and you tell them the   
   actually reason you must do this, they will actually take over ahead of you   
   and escort you to where you (and even they may) need to fastly be!   
      
   No, at 76 years of age I've never pressed to see if that is still the sort of   
   under the table viewpoint.  But I'm still VERY close to all the local law   
   enforcement folks here who many of them know me still VERY well.   From even   
   when there was no Internet and I was part of the original creation of FidoNet.   
      
      
   Mike Luther as W5WQN and N117C still from 1:117/100 here.   
      
      
      
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