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Zaren Ankleweed whipped out his/her/its Personal Electronic Thing,
summoned a BellBot to
holdthistoo-9ED746.23521419072003@visonmassif.rs.itd.umich.edu ,
leaving his/her/its contact info (holdthistoo@umich.edu) with the
deskbot, and proceeded to say:
> In article ,
>  "Poop Dogg"  wrote:
>
>> My first computer (after the TI-99) was a 128K Macintosh.  While
>> I thought it was cool at the time, in retrospect it seriously
>> handicapped me when I graduated to a "real" PC later.
>
> As opposed to those "fake" Apple PCs...  of course, you remember that
> Apple was one of the companies that brought the concept of "Personal
> Computer" (your oft mis-used "PC" label) to the public, right? Of
> course you do.  Now that we've got that out of the way, lets move
> on...

I have seen you nitpick on this CONSTANTLY. Seriously, get a grip! We use
PCs to mean Windows machines, and Macs to mean Macs. Live with it.

> You mean, like the third party external hard drives you could buy for
> the Mac Plus?  Or the video cards for the Mac II?  Sure, Wintel third
> party stuff was more plentiful, always has been... that's what happens
> when there's no wuality assurance of standards to follow.  You get to
> spend hours forcing your Wintel computer to play nice with those third
> party devices, or you can buy a third party product for a Mac, plug it
> in, install the drive, and it *just works*.  See "the whole widget"
> for more information.

All third party Windows units I have used have worked for me right every
time. The only reason you claim the limited selection of Mac hardware does
the same is that they have NO ROOM FOR INSPIRATION. They are controlled by
the harsh guidelines and limits that programming for a mac brings.

> Yep, the closed architecture was a pain, but justified under the
> "whole widget" concept.  Jobs and Woz figured people didn't *need* to
> monkey with the guts of the machine, they just needed to use it.

Well, they were wrong. I mean, I understand, I wouldn't trust a Mac user to
touch *my* computer *either*, but...


> I got rid of the floppy drive too - needed to make room for
> another hard drive, and who uses something as crappy and slow and
> unreliable as a floppy drive anymore?

Two things:

1) Sounds like Mac floppy hype... reading the mac.com site again?
2) If you had a PC, you wouldn't need to remove the floppy... they have nice
multiple HD ports built right in.

:)


> Because those of us that don't like one button mice go and spend a few
> bucks and get a different one.  My wife and kids get along just fine
> with a single button mouse.  I prefer my three-button trackball.  I do
> admit, however, that the super-short cable on the hockey puck was a
> bad idea.

But do you actually get the expanded MENU INTERFACE that you get with a PC,
allowing you to do a variety of options to that file with two clicks?

> By the way, that mouse was NOT attached to the keyboard.
> As far as I know (and I've been using Macs since the Plus) Apple has
> never sold a mouse that was hardwired to the keyboard.  True, that
> might be the only place you could plug it in, but it was never stuck
> there.

HAH!

"Oh, sure, that was the only place to plug it in, but you were never
RESTRICTED to have it there, were you?"

> And as for the Windows "extended" interface...  if the interface is
> designed right from the start, it doesn't need the funky singing and
> dancing that your vaunted "extended" interface provides.

I'm sorry, some of like advanced computers that can actually *so* things.
Stick with the simple "toddler" version, saying "I don'ts needs all dem darn
bells and whistles there, yesserie!"

> I really
> wish Apple wouldn't have strayed so far from the System 7 interface,
> or even the OS9 interface, but that's progress for you.

So you're saying Apple progress is making things more undesirable?

> Great, just what I need, a gazillion apps that will let someone else
> hack into my system and / or infect me with viruses.

You *do* know that although there are many programs WRITTEN for it doesn't
mean you have to INSTALL every one, don't you?

Personally, I like to have CHOICE. But I wouldn't bet a Mac user could
understand that.

"Choice? Dat there a durn ALIEEEN WURD!"


> I can tell him is "get a Mac, and you won't have to worry about that
> crap".

"You'll only have to worry about more, DIFFERENT crap!



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