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|  Debra Dee McQueen Freeman to All  |
|  Re: MY POSTINGS AT EDGARCAYCE.ORG -- (68  |
|  14 Aug 16 03:30:33  |
 [continued from previous message] A.R.E. should have nothing to do with and should not be offering to the public. As one example, the book "Conversations With God" says that no human being should ever consume any alcohol. Yet both the Readings and the Bible advocate the moderate consumption of wine, AND turning the wedding banquet water to wine was Jesus' first public miracle. So the "God" that was supposedly conversing here thus indicted the actual God's most special Son. As another example, and of much more serious consequence, the book "A Course In Miracles" says that there is no Satan, no Hell, no sin, and that it was Jesus Himself who had possessed Helen Schucman's voice box and channeled this information through her. So the actual Jesus who had preached Satan, and Hell, and sin, had apparently been all wrong and hung around the earth until He could finally find the right person for the job in the 1970's who He could possess in order to set things right. NO POINT TO GIVE ANY MORE EXAMPLES - THEY ARE ALL EQUALLY OUTRAGEOUS. That is to be expected since Satan is behind all channeled materials. His purpose is to lure people away from the truths in The Holy Bible, which I plainly show here in this thread of mine are all paralleled in The Cayce Readings. Yes, Yes, and Yes - the Readings are thoroughly biblical, and it is only the truths in The Holy Bible which "bring the better understanding of the purpose IN life, and thus enable man to realize the closer association with the divine." A number of years ago I was on the phone with one of the A.R.E. principals and when I commented to her about the fact that the A.R.E. was offering to the public offerings which are not similar to and do not coordinate with the Readings, her reply to me was that the A.R.E. offers everything and allows people to choose for themselves. Well, not only would such a policy be against the above cited Work Reading, but Ha! What a LIE! The A.R.E. Bookstore has never offered, for example, "The Satanic Bible". So then I said to her, in order to point out to her that what she had just said was not true, "Then when is it going to offer "The Satanic Bible"?", and her reply was to immediately hang up the phone on me. And before this portion of our conversation she had bragged to me that she does not read the Old Testament but only reads the New Testament (it seemed to me that she was thereby trying to say to me that she was just a warm-fuzzy-loving type person, but what I actually gathered by this fact about her was that she apparently thought herself smarter than the living God Who had the Old Testament written, and Jesus who regularly quoted the Old Testament, and Edgar Cayce who repeatedly read and loved the entire Holy Bible). With people like this "manning the ship", it is no wonder that all of the sins and errors have been commit that have been commit and are still being commit. All of these things have been extremely hurtful and disappointing and frustrating to the true members of the true A.R.E., and ever since the time that many of them left in the early 1980's when Charles Thomas took-over the helm, but we can all know that in time, one way or another, and sooner or later, the ship will be set aright. This is guaranteed. All things will be made right, come the kingdom of God - the rule and reign of only the righteous on the earth - if not before then. Amen! Debra Dee Freeman ********** August 03 2015 J.R. replied: "A number of years ago I was on the phone with one of the A.R.E. principals and when I commented to her about the fact that the A.R.E. was offering to the public offerings which are not similar to and do not coordinate with the Readings, her reply to me was that the A.R.E. offers everything and allows people to choose for themselves. " per Debra I had a similar interchange with a conference speaker who was a Christian minister. I still remember voices in the audience ranting that "this is involves judgment". Some religions promote drug use, barbaric acts, child sacrifice and all sorts of horrible behavior. Is ARE going to promote these in the interest of New Age sensibility? Later, the minister and his smiling wife, told me that we could have this conversation privately, however, he did not have the conviction to say publicly that some judgments are appropriate. The minister and his wife have not appeared at ARE since that time (roughly 15 years ago). I realize that we are all overly judgmental and condemning but some behaviors are generally agreed upon (by civilized people) as evil. The anything goes" culture of the 60's is still alive in many New Age circles despite the legacy of broken lives. My favorite example is Charley Manson who preached a nearly perfect replica of the "Course" to his followers. That ended badly and most channeled gibberish will also lead its adherents to a similar fate. Cayce people who maintain that the Christ consciousness is universal often forget to mention that universal consciousness also includes moral judgments! For example: "41. How, then, ye ask, are ye to know when ye are on the straight and narrow way? 42. "My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit that ye are indeed the children of God." 43. How? Thy God-consciousness, thy soul, either condemns, rejects or falters before conditions that exist in the experience of the mental and material self. Mind ever is the Builder" 1436-1 ********** August 04 2015 Debra replied: Hello Again J.R.: Satan, who does exist according to The Readings and The Bible, has sought to cause confusion, and working through his people he has done a very good job of it. There is much confusion, for example, regarding the subject JUDGMENT. In actual fact, when Jesus said not to judge [see Matthew 7], he was talking to the wicked HYPOCRITES, and warned them that the judgments that they made would come back on themselves or be measured back to them. This was not a commandment to everyone, as has been erroneously spouted. Whereas when Jesus was talking to the righteous he told them to beware of wolves in sheep's clothing and to stay away from the blind leading the blind and to not cast pearls of wisdom before swine and et cetera, none of which could be carried-out by the righteous if they did not effect discernment and judgment. Jesus judged greatly also when talking to other wicked persons - calling them snakes, scorpions, white-washed tombs, sons of hell, sons of Satan, more. Judging another for a similarity to oneself is a sin; but judging another for something not similar to oneself is not a sin, and both Jesus and Paul advocated, even commanded, the confronting of a trespass [see Matthew 18 and Galatians 6 for example]. When Edgar, in the Readings, talks about not judging, it has to be kept in mind that only 17 persons who received Readings were told that they were right with God - so the persons that he gave this advice to were undoubtedly being hypocritical and/or lacking discernment in their judgments and so that is why he told them not to judge. Again, to take this advice that Edgar gave to these certain persons and say that it should be applied to everyone is to err. Both the Readings and the Bible are absolutely absolutist, rather than relativistic. As far as the former, elsewise there would not be 270 Readings [continued in next message] --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) |
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