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 Message 18,118 of 19,133 
 Debra Dee McQueen Freeman to All 
 Re: MY POSTINGS AT EDGARCAYCE.ORG -- (68 
 14 Aug 16 03:30:33 
 
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A.R.E. should have nothing to do with and should not be offering to the public.
 
As one example, the book "Conversations With God" says that no human 
being should ever consume any alcohol. Yet both the Readings and the Bible
advocate the moderate consumption of wine, AND turning the wedding 
banquet water to wine was Jesus' first public miracle. So the "God" that was
supposedly conversing here thus indicted the actual God's most special Son.
 
As another example, and of much more serious consequence, the book "A
Course In Miracles" says that there is no Satan, no Hell, no sin, and that it 
was Jesus Himself who had possessed Helen Schucman's voice box and 
channeled this information through her. So the actual Jesus who had 
preached Satan, and Hell, and sin, had apparently been all wrong and hung 
around the earth until He could finally find the right person for the job in
the 
1970's who He could possess in order to set things right.  

NO POINT TO GIVE ANY MORE EXAMPLES - THEY ARE ALL EQUALLY
OUTRAGEOUS. That is to be expected since Satan is behind all channeled
materials. His purpose is to lure people away from the truths in The Holy
Bible, which I plainly show here in this thread of mine are all paralleled in 
The Cayce Readings. Yes, Yes, and Yes - the Readings are thoroughly 
biblical, and it is only the truths in The Holy Bible which "bring the better  
understanding of the purpose IN life, and thus enable man to realize the 
closer association with the divine."

A number of years ago I was on the phone with one of the A.R.E. principals
and when I commented to her about the fact that the A.R.E. was offering to
the public offerings which are not similar to and do not coordinate with the
Readings, her reply to me was that the A.R.E. offers everything and allows
people to choose for themselves. Well, not only would such a policy be 
against the above cited Work Reading, but Ha! What a LIE! The A.R.E. 
Bookstore has never offered, for example, "The Satanic Bible". So then I 
said to her, in order to point out to her that what she had just said was 
not true, "Then when is it going to offer "The Satanic Bible"?", and her reply 
was to immediately hang up the phone on me. And before this portion of 
our conversation she had bragged to me that she does not read the Old 
Testament but only reads the New Testament (it seemed to me that she 
was thereby trying to say to me that she was just a warm-fuzzy-loving 
type person, but what I actually gathered by this fact about her was that 
she apparently thought herself smarter than the living God Who had the 
Old Testament written, and Jesus who regularly quoted the Old Testament, 
and Edgar Cayce who repeatedly read and loved the entire Holy Bible). With 
people like this "manning the ship", it is no wonder that all of the sins and 
errors have been commit that have been commit and are still being 
commit.          

All of these things have been extremely hurtful and disappointing and 
frustrating to the true members of the true A.R.E., and ever since the time 
that many of them left in the early 1980's when Charles Thomas took-over 
the helm, but we can all know that in time, one way or another, and sooner 
or later, the ship will be set aright. This is guaranteed. All things will be 
made right, come the kingdom of God - the rule and reign of only the 
righteous on the earth - if not before then. Amen!     

Debra Dee Freeman


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August 03 2015

J.R. replied:

"A number of years ago I was on the phone with one of the A.R.E. principals
and when I commented to her about the fact that the A.R.E. was offering to
the public offerings which are not similar to and do not coordinate with the
Readings, her reply to me was that the A.R.E. offers everything and allows
people to choose for themselves. " per Debra
 
 
I had a similar interchange with a conference speaker who was a Christian 
minister.  I still remember voices in the audience ranting that "this is
involves 
judgment".  Some religions promote drug use, barbaric acts, child sacrifice 
and all sorts of horrible behavior.  Is ARE going to promote these in the 
interest of New Age sensibility?
 
Later, the minister and his smiling wife, told me  that we could have this 
conversation privately, however, he did not have the conviction to say 
publicly that some judgments are appropriate.  The minister and his wife 
have not appeared at ARE since that time (roughly 15 years ago).
 
I realize that we are all overly judgmental and condemning but some 
behaviors are generally agreed upon (by civilized people) as evil.  The 
anything goes" culture of the 60's is still alive in many New Age circles 
despite the legacy of broken lives.  My favorite example is Charley Manson 
who preached a nearly perfect replica of the "Course" to his followers.  That 
ended badly and most channeled gibberish will also lead its adherents to a 
similar fate.
 
Cayce people who maintain that the Christ consciousness is universal often 
forget to mention that universal consciousness also includes moral 
judgments!  For example:
"41. How, then, ye ask, are ye to know when ye are on the straight and 
narrow way?

42. "My Spirit beareth witness with thy spirit that ye are indeed the children 
of God."

43. How? Thy God-consciousness, thy soul, either condemns, rejects or 
falters before conditions that exist in the experience of the mental and 
material self. Mind ever is the Builder"  1436-1


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August 04 2015

Debra replied:

Hello Again J.R.:
 
Satan, who does exist according to The Readings and The Bible, has sought 
to cause confusion, and working through his people he has done a very good
job of it.
 
There is much confusion, for example, regarding the subject JUDGMENT.
 
In actual fact, when Jesus said not to judge [see Matthew 7], he was talking 
to the wicked HYPOCRITES, and warned them that the judgments that they 
made would come back on themselves or be measured back to them. This 
was not a commandment to everyone, as has been erroneously spouted.
Whereas when Jesus was talking to the righteous he told them to beware of 
wolves in sheep's clothing and to stay away from the blind leading the blind
and to not cast pearls of wisdom before swine and et cetera, none of which
could be carried-out by the righteous if they did not effect discernment and
judgment. Jesus judged greatly also when talking to other wicked persons - 
calling them snakes, scorpions, white-washed tombs, sons of hell, sons of 
Satan, more. Judging another for a similarity to oneself is a sin; but judging 
another for something not similar to oneself is not a sin, and both Jesus and 
Paul advocated, even commanded, the confronting of a trespass [see 
Matthew 18 and Galatians 6 for example]. 

When Edgar, in the Readings, talks about not judging, it has to be kept in
mind that only 17 persons who received Readings were told that they were
right with God - so the persons that he gave this advice to were undoubtedly
being hypocritical and/or lacking discernment in their judgments and so that
is why he told them not to judge. Again, to take this advice that Edgar gave
to these certain persons and say that it should be applied to everyone is to
err.
 
Both the Readings and the Bible are absolutely absolutist, rather than
relativistic. As far as the former, elsewise there would not be 270 Readings 

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